[Info-vax] IPsec the key to WEB-3

[Richard Maher]

Hi JF,

"JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot at vaxination.ca> wrote in message
news:001d1c1e$0$20646$c3e8da3 at news.astraweb.com...
> Richard Maher wrote:
>
>
> > To make the new decision to
> > *remove* it from the Road Map requires pro-activeness, meetings,
expenditure
> > and most of all malice.
>
> Yes, a decision was obviously made. And ?

Obvious to you perhaps. May I ask what makes you so confident of that
decision. Matt Muggeridge (whose continued existence on these sunny
(although very wet over there) shores, fills me with joy and confidence).
Maybe he is lying to me? Maybe his "awaiting customer feedback" is the
traditional DEC euphamism for "piss off and stop wasting our time"? You seem
to know everything; what evidence exactly are you basing your IPsec opinions
on?
>
> Don't blame VMS engineering if they have been deprived by HP of
> sufficient resources to finish IPsec. Blame HP.

There are more than enough funds available. I've acknowledged your points
yet you insist on ignoring mine; there is opportunity income all over the
place and I'm sure most of it directly under the control of Ann McQuaid.
RTR, WSIT, Axis2, (not to mention the millions being doled out will-nilly on
dubious freeware by the Grand Pooh-Bah of Busy Work)
>
> You complain to HP, they will guide you towards HP-UX which probably has
> IPsec.

IPsec is an integral part of any IP Stack; as important as IPv6! But
according to JF, IPv6 support should have been killed as well? Maybe I
missed that announcement.
>
>
> Look, HP isn't going to come right out and announce the end of the line
> for VMS. Doing so would aleniate customers and reduce the chance of HP
> retaining customers by moving them to HP-Windows, HP-Linux, HP-UX.

Maybe I just don't await the decision as eagerly as you.
>
> Their strategy appears to slow down VMS development which helps
> customers get that nudge to move off VMS, but without much anger towards
> HP which makes it easier for HP to make a pitch to move them to another
> HP product.

Again, I don't believe they are that interested in VMS; certainly not the
specifics. They have to reduce dollars, reduce head-count, yadda, yadda,
yadda. There are plenty of dollars available if the right people/projects
were axed. This is where the treachery against VMS lies, and has done for
over 15 years :-(

Regards Richard Maher