[Info-vax] Casting IPsec before swine

Richard B. Gilbert rgilbert88 at comcast.net
Sat Apr 4 10:27:03 EDT 2009


Richard Maher wrote:
> Hi Steven,
> 
> "Steven Underwood" <nobody at spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:7UvBl.413$9t6.403 at newsfe10.iad...
>>
>> "Richard Maher" <maher_rj at hotspamnotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:gr4vcr$5sk$1 at news-01.bur.connect.com.au...
>>> You'll find heaps more on the IBM, SUN, HPUX, Apple OSX, and Microsoft
>>> Windows sites if you could be botthered looking.
>>>
>> Richard: I looked at the HP site you highlight and right away, the first
>> paragraph does not describe my needs at all.
>>
>> "Your employees are spending more hours working away from their desks:
>> working from home, working on the road, working in meetings, working at
>> customer sites. Across industries, professionals and knowledge workers
>> perform their work away from their desks more than half the time."
> 
> That was just one focused example/link of HP/UX targetting a specific
> application and/or industry segment. The following two links I also provided
> were a general description of IPsec and its functionality, also from the
> HPUX pages. Futhermore, I pointed out that there are oodles of web pages
> readily available (from Wikipedia to IBM to SUN to Microsoft et al) that
> describe what IPsec can do for you and what many other people in your
> demographic find it useful for. I've even provided the spartan HP/VMS IPsec
> link, but here it is again: -
> http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/ipsec/
> 
> Secure mobile networking and hand-held devices happen to be a bit of a hot
> topic at the moment, if you're into that sort of thing. But, you're right,
> it's not for everyone.
> 
>> Well, I work in the insurance industry with a large (90-95% of our
>> employees) phone bank, and as such are tied to their desks.  Our VMS
> system
>> is primarily an end user of the data in the Oracle DB's on other
> platforms.
>> Batch processing of that data and some home grown Cobol programs are what
> is
>> running.
> 
> Just curious, but how are you securing the traffic from your desktops (or
> specific applications on your desktops) to your servers at the moment? SSH?
> HTTPS? Stunnel? "They're in the same building, so what"?
> 

I worked in IT for many years and I don't think we EVER worried about 
securing our internal traffic!  At McGraw-Hill we networked with about 
100 field offices and six "print centers" without using any encryption 
that I was aware of.

Now SOME traffic requires encryption for reasons of security, 
authentication, or both.  Most does not.



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