[Info-vax] "Linux Shminux - IPsec is Snake Oil!" VMS Mgmnt

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For anybody who hasn't seen it and wants to know more about IPv6, RFC
5514 describes IPv6 over social networks, which has been available
since April 1 of this year.

On Apr 13, 9:22 pm,
pech... at bandit.pechter.dyndns.org.pechter.dyndns.org (Bill Pechter)
wrote:
> In article <74hrasF12o3u... at mid.individual.net>,
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> Bill Gunshannon <billg... at cs.uofs.edu> wrote:
> >In article <176uZD2KcidF-pn2-Ng1UCvMHm... at rikki.tavi.co.uk>,
> >    "Bob Eager" <rd... at spamcop.net> writes:
> >> On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 18:04:22 UTC, JF Mezei
> >> <jfmezei.spam... at vaxination.ca> wrote:
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> >>> Bob Eager wrote:
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> >>> > Maybe. Mine is the opposite. Everything has a public IP address.
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> >>> There is nothing wrong with feeling at ease with being exposed to the
> >>> world, borderline exhibitionist...
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> >> If I were exposed to the world, I'd be worried...NAT is not a universal
> >> panecea.
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> >Yeah, but it is amazing how many people think it is some kind of a
> >security system.  There are many ways to get past a NATed system.
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> >>> NAT routers really provide 2 functions: the NAT and a firewall function.
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> >>> Just because you go IPv6 and no longer need NAT doesn't mean that your
> >>> router will lose its firewall capabilities. In fact, they should be
> >>> augmented.
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> >> I agree. And my firewall is a dedicated machine, not just the stuff in a
> >> cheap router.
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> >As it shoudl be.  And not just a linux box pretending to be a firewall.
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> >bill
> >--
> >Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolves
> >billg... at cs.scranton.edu |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
> >University of Scranton   |
> >Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>  
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> Ok Bill.  I have to ask.  Why not.
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> What's a PIX got that IPCop or Smoothwall don't have?
> What's not available in iptables or FreeBSD's pf...
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> Bill
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> Inquiring minds want to know...
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