[Info-vax] Request description of UFS for VMS person

[AEF]

On Apr 30, 9:11 am, billg... at cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
> In article <75tm0vF1a2nh... at mid.individual.net>,
>         billg... at cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:
>
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> > In article <ae561039-9f98-47a3-8f01-40b615214... at j9g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
> >    AEF <spamsink2... at yahoo.com> writes:
> >> On Apr 28, 10:17 am, "Bob Eager" <rd... at spamcop.net> wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:37:23 UTC,
>
> >>> koeh... at eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) wrote:
> >>> > In article <176uZD2KcidF-pn2-uSusmdQq9... at rikki.tavi.co.uk>, "Bob Eager" <rd... at spamcop.net> writes:
>
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> > Read the comment and then look at the structure.  The maping between the
> > inode and the file name is contained in the directory, pretty much where
> > one would expect it to be.  Write a utility to read directories and print
> > out that mapping.  The need for which totally evades me. :-)

Just to learn what's there. It worked for me in VMS.

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> >>          So much for "everything is a file in Unix".
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> > What from what has been stated so far disproves this?  While it has
> > been demonstrated that in some cases structures have been imposed on
> > various parts of the Unix File System everything, right down to the
> > raw disk, can be accessed as a file, one byte at a time, if you want.
>
> OK, I guess because I have never had a reason to do it I just never looked,
> but I did now.  You want the inode numers of files?  "ls -i".  So, if one
> was paranoid enough and actually cared, there is no reason why one can not
> keep a copy of that mapping around just incase something shows up in the
> lost+found directory.  :-)

I know how to get inode numbers. I don't know how to find the indoes
THEMSELVES or read them directly. I just want to know what is it that
makes them "just files". If they were "just file" I could use file
commands on them. I can't. Therefore, they are not files.

>
> bill
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AEF