[Info-vax] Cutting down on routing nodes

[H Vlems]

On 3 aug, 22:54, CY <christ... at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hmmm...
> > There must be something that prevents the procedure to go to that branch.
> > What computer model are you using in this case?
> > $ SHOW CPU
>
> > What kind of DECnet license do you have registered?
> > $ SHOW LICENSE
>
> > What DECnet version do you have installed?
> > $ MC NCP SHOW EXEC CHAR- Dölj citerad text -
>
> > - Visa citerad text -
>
> Huvvä illta (aorry my finnish is a bit poor, as is the english, but
> bare with me)
>
> We concluded at work, that I run FOE at the new desingated (spellled
> something like that) router wont cut it due to lic problems, its a
> 830c IA64 or something running OVMS 8.... H1 something, dont got that
> in my head, and no I cant just "set executor" to routing IV as the
> package is not insstalled (o that is my thoughts) so I will live
> without it, trying a nice dcl hack when I get the time to see other
> nodes... answering to set host or something..
>
> Upgrading the alpha productiondata DW(oh yes got licences for that) to
> router "again" (router put to sleep at alpha conversion -99) is not in
> my gameplan, want to make it easy to comprehend who/what is doing
> what, it took that role many years ago because the PDP was lagging.
> Now its out of the q.
> now got enough CPU to run anything everywhere, but want order in the
> functions...
>
> And the alpha is going IA64 as soon as they get the float problem
> fixed, (HP) so the thing it is a package of decnet phase iv problem
> that I am having...
>
> and as we solved it by saying, we dont need one, problem solved ;)
>
> Will try that with decnet accounts, will be 5 min or work...,  and ncp
> storing all MOP calls (as I read the manual) might help.
>
> Hyvvä yöta Kari.
>
> //CY

If I understand you well then these are your requirements:
-You're running all the DECnet machines in one area
-All nodes run phase IV
-You'd rather run without routing because the overhead involved is a
concern

It is quite possible to run a DECnet environment without a router at
all, as you've tried and proved.
While doing that, you're effectively blind. So the choice seems to be
between running (at least) one
router or implementing a tool to figure out what is alive in area 5.
The overhead of running a circuit router is minimal, even on a
microVAX II. Using a DECnet 'ping' is
something you need to schedule and will impose some kind of additional
load on the target nodes.
(if you're rinning PDP--1 systems, shouldn't it be TYPE
<node>::NL: ?).

Converting an endnode system to a router node is no longer in
NETCONFIG. The manual procedure is:

$ MC NCP
NCP> DEF EXEC TYPE ROUT IV
NCP> SET EXEC STATE OFF
NCP> EXIT
$!
$ @SYS$STARTUP:NETSTART

Hans