[Info-vax] HP's Partner Virtualization Program
Richard Maher
maher_rj at hotspamnotmail.com
Wed Aug 5 06:49:06 EDT 2009
Hi Arne,
"Arne Vajhøj" <arne at vajhoej.dk> wrote in message
news:4a78f243$0$307$14726298 at news.sunsite.dk...
> Richard Maher wrote:
> > Hi Jan-Erik, Alan,
> > "Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing" <winston at SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
> >> Virtualization was scheduled for 8.4, which was waiting for Tukwila. At
the
> >> Tech Forum, users were pretty clear that they wanted some kind of
updated which
> >> included virtualization without having to wait for Tukwila, and
management
> >> appeared to have heard that request. (Then the VMS sig mailing list
had a
> >> surprising-to-me discussion aobut what a pain and expense qualifying
> >> intermediate versions was, so the message got somewhat muddled, but as
far as
> >> I know there's an intention to get the non-Tukwila-support pieces
originally
> >> slated for 8.4 out the door in some shorter timeframe.)
> >
> > Excellent. So there'd be absolutely *no* reason why IPsec could not be
added
> > to the kit in the intervening 4-6 months then, yes?
> >
> > What a marvellous opportunity to take full advantage of this God-send of
a
> > grace period!
>
> I am sure they could.
I cannot conceive of a single technological or time-sensitive obstacle.
>
> But they do not seem as interested in IPsec as you are.
I depends on who your "they" refers to. (And it certainly would be nice to
have them out from under the bed or the closet for a change. Come on - come
out and take a bow you treacherous bastards! You others all love your
bootcamps, love-ins, and tech-update days as a way to keep "up to date" with
what's going on, so who exactly are Arne's "they"?)
But, you see, I too have a "they". They were responsible for: -
1) Getting the IPsec development budget approved and management onboard
2) Allocating the many thousands of man hours an millions of dollars to
bring a workable product to fruition by august 2007: -
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/ipsec/
3) Scheduling the initial release for 8.3 and then falling/slipping back to
8.4 on the road map for *years*!
4) Applying for and receiving "IPV6 Ready" status for TCP/IP Services for
VMS: -
http://www.ipv6ready.org/phase-2_approved_list
A status that should now be relinquished by any organization of integrity.
5) Understanding that *every* other OS on the planet from Linux, Windows,
HP/UX, NSK, MVS, Android, iPhone is supporting at least one version of
IPsec!
6) Understanding that HP, SUN, Microsoft, IBM, Apple have all jumped on the
IPsec bandwagon years ago
7) Understanding that IPsec is an integral piece of the e-business
infrastructure puzzle and is about as optional as running an IP stack at
all.
Now, hopefully I've played my small part in shining the light of truth on
your poisonous and/or incompetent bunch of numpties that made the decision
to take IPsec out of 8.4. If there's any justice in the world they will see
the light or be relieved of their duties in time for IPsec to be
productionized and appear as an incredibly pro-active (and at the same time
responsive) move to bring IPsec out with 8.4.
I for one would not stop applauding!
>
> Arne
Regards Richard Maher
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