[Info-vax] FTP sesion against a vms server fails

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Thu Aug 6 10:23:02 EDT 2009


In article <65142276-f7fa-4d10-9305-e6ab9abeb3f2 at v20g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, John Wallace <johnwallace4 at yahoo.co.uk> writes:
>On Aug 6, 5:16=A0am, moro... at world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
>wrote:
>> I have also noticed some FTP funniness with VMS (V8.3 Alpha). =A0On my LA=
>N
>> (all systems 100BT), FTP from one PC running XP works, but is very slow. =
>=A0
>> From another PC running XP, it runs at normal speed. =A0In each case the =
>FTP
>> client is the basic simple Windows client (DOS window->ftp). =A0Since I
>> rarely FTP from the "slow" system, I haven't investigated further.
>
>Based on experience (rather than evidence), stuff like that is often
>down to physical layer issues - autonegotiate mismatch, duplex
>mismatch, speed mismatch, etc. Either genuine hardware issues or maybe
>just driver misbehaviour. Either way, a $10 network card might help
>quickly identify where the problem lies.
>
>Back to the OP though.
>
>Wireshark (formerly Ethereal) is a wonderful tool for knowing what's
>been happening in IP packet terms on a PC. If I recall correctly some
>VMS IP stacks have their own packet-trace facilities too.
>
>A log of the packet exchange between PC and VMS system would allow
>folks to be making evidence-based suggestions rather than the educated
>guesses we're getting so far.
>
>Also, a less ambiguous problem description might be helpful. I *think*
>the ftp failure problem summary is:
>pc1 -> vms1 : ftp fails
>pc1 -> vms2 : ftp fails (identically?)
>vms1 -> vms2 : ftp OK
>
>To date, the definition of "fails" unfortunately does not include the
>exact commands issued and the exact results they generated, or any VMS
>OPCOM output which might potentially be relevant.
>
>Best suggestion I've seen so far is VAXman's request to use telnet to
>manually drive ftp and note the exact results, though later on, the
>same logic VAXman uses to deduce that the problem must be in MS
>territory ("VMS ftp always works for me so the problem must be
>Windows") is the same logic most folks would normally use to point the
>finger at VMS in this picture ("Windows ftp always works for me so the
>problem must be VMS").

Take a glance back at the introductory thread and I believe that there
was a statement that other FTPs to the VMS system work.  Yup...

	When I open an ftp sesion from a Windows PC to a vms machine
	it fails. It is stack endlessly.  Trying to work against another
	VMS machine brings the same result. Other protcols like telnet ,
	ping work fine. Trying to open a sesion from another VMS machine
	works fine. 

So, if the server responds for other FT clients, I would decude that the
problem lies with WEENDOZE.


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