[Info-vax] HP's Partner Virtualization Program

[Richard B. Gilbert]

Michael D. Ober wrote:
> "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88 at comcast.net> wrote in message 
> news:yJ-dnb4DHoqzSxvXnZ2dnUVZ_i1i4p2d at giganews.com...
>> R.A.Omond wrote:
>>> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>>>> [...big snip...]
>>>> In twenty years as a system manager, VMS and several flavors of 
>>>> Unix, I NEVER used, or even encountered, IPSEC!  We've all gotten 
>>>> along without it somehow.  I never missed it!  Why has it suddenly 
>>>> become a sine qua non?
>>>
>>> Richard, please use some of the next twenty years to learn how to snip.
>>
>> Please try to answer the question!
>>
> 
> 
> Richard - there are a two problems that IPSec supposedly solves.
> 
> First, packets are encrypted in transit.  There is a growing realization 
> that packets in the clear are large enough to carry a lot of personal 
> data. Credit card data, including name, address, card number, and card 
> security number, for instance, can be fully stored inside the 1500 or so 
> byte limit imposed by most routers.  So to steal your credit card, a 
> packet sniffer only needs to grab a single packet.  You don't have to 
> defeat security on the OS to steal credit cards.  Transmission security 
> is a necessary, but not sufficient requirement, for internet commerce of 
> any sort.  Yes, IPSec isn't the only method, but it's well understood 
> and relatively easy to implement on most routers and OSs.
> 

ISTR that all such transactions for the last eight or ten years have 
used HTTPS.  I've learned the check for the https://mumble in my 
browser.  Is this some form of IPSEC?