[Info-vax] Terrible news for Mr VAXman

[Bill Gunshannon]

In article <00114312$0$2146$c3e8da3 at news.astraweb.com>,
	JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot at vaxination.ca> writes:
> 
> The warming recorded in the last 50 years is way faster than any
> cyclical pattern that occurs naturally. So if humnan activities that
> cause warming occur during a natural "up" cycle, it will make it even
> harder to curb temperature rises.

Actually, a match-up of temperatire data and sunspot data going back to
the 1800's ( and I didn't even know they knew what sunspots were in the
1800's!) shows a very direct corelation with the temps remaining well
within accepted deltas.  Research done back in 1997.  Amazing how much
real science gets ignored when it comes to protecting that grant money.

> Why not just give up. Let the planet kill us, give itself a couple dozen
> thousand years to clean up and starts anew again ?

I have said for years that long before we did any lasting damage to the
planet it would sweep us off and carry on as if we had never existed.

I am in favor of your suggestion.
 
 
> BTW, "global warming" entails an increase in more violent weather, not
> just average temperture increases.  There are costs to violent weather,
> be it Kathina in New Orleans (and Gulf) 

The biggest problem with Katrina and the Gulf was not the weather, it
was people who choose to live in places so susceptable to damage from
it.  Kind of like where I live.  In 1972 the valley below me was devestated
by flooding that was blamed on Hurricane Agnes.  I was away with the
military and missed a lot of it (I came home just as the waters receded).
When I bought my home I chose a place 150 feet higher than the river.
Many people rebuilt right back in the flood plain.  Some people south of
here even went so far as to build homes on the river side of the dike
the Corp of Engineers had built.

Nature can not do more damage than stupidity.

>                                          or some massive blizzard that
> paralises the Eastern USA for a few days, instead of sending the snow to
> Canada as it should have.

Same thing.  I have tired of fighting the snow (actually, it is more
a case of stupidity again as there is no more snow than there was when
I was a child, but they seem much less capable of dealing with it today.)
and plan to retire to the south where the weather is better. 

> 
> Eurostar is another example of costs due to wether patterns that had not
> been planned for.
> 
> 
> And of course, when sea levels rise, how much of New York City will
> flood regularly ?  And the government of Florida may see its tax
> revenues dwindlw if large swaths of Florida become part of the ocean and
> un-inhabitable due to sea level rise.

And who's fault is it that idiots choose to live there?  This is kind of
like Y2K.  People have been talking for years about Florida and NYC being
flooded and yet, the populations of both places have actually increased
during that time.  Go figure.

> 
> Thos opposed to taking action on globl warming always point to the extra
> costs for fossil fuels. They never talk about the cost to the economy of
> that weather.

And then there are those of us who know it has nothing to do with people
at all.  It is a natural occurance that sonme people have found a way to
profit from by taking money from other people's wallets.  Business as usual.

bill 

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