[Info-vax] Kermit on Itanium VMS

John Santos john.santos at post.harvard.edu
Thu Dec 31 02:29:36 EST 2009


In article <1OSdnTx8WqkpX6bWnZ2dnUVZ_ridnZ2d at giganews.com>, rgilbert88
@comcast.net says...> 
> Ken Fairfield wrote:
> > On Dec 30, 12:45 pm, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber... at comcast.net>
> > wrote:
> >> glen herrmannsfeldt wrote:
> >>> In comp.os.vms Frank da Cruz <f... at panix.com> wrote:
> >>> (snip)
> >>>> VMS is one of the few surviving OS's that pays serious attention to the
> >>>> now deprecated if not forgoteen concepts of stability and backwards
> >>>> compatibility from one release to another, so any VMS / IA64 binary that
> >>>> you find in the archive:
> >>> As I understand it, z/OS will still run OS/360 load modules, such
> >>> as the PL/I compiler written and assembled over 40 years ago.  
> >>> I don't believe the VMS currently can run any binaries over 40
> >>> years old.
> >>> -- glen
> >> Err. . .  How about RSX images in compatibility mode on a VAX 11/780 or
> >> 11/750?
> >>
> >> After all these years I have a little difficulty imagining why anyone
> >> would want to but given sufficient incentives it's possible to do it.
> > 
> > Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought compatibility mode was
> > dropped after VMS 3.x.  I do know that it stopped being shipped
> > as part of base VMS, i.e., for at least a while it was a separately
> > licensed product, but is it still available on VMS/VAX 7.3?
> > 
> >     -Ken
> 
> It was alive and well under 3.7.  I think you might have to resurrect a 
> VAX 11/7xx machine and a copy of VMS V3.x in order to do it today.
> 
> I question if this is a real problem for anyone today.  If it is, I feel 
> sorry (but not too sorry) for those responsible!

The RSX-11 AME still runs on OpenVMS-VAX V7.3 (or whatever the official
name is.)  As does ROSS/V (RSTS/E emulation).  I don't know if you can
get support for VAX-11/RSX, since Mentec seems to have crawled into the
woodwork.  We no longer have any supported ROSS/V customers, but offer
me enough $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.  :-)

However the oldest RSX executables are from the early 1970s.  

RSTS/E .BAC files from V6A (1974?) should still run.  I don't remember
if anyone has ever tried anything older than that.  Same with mid-70's
RT11 executables that ran under real RSTS/E back then.  I'm not sure
when the original PIP.SAV was released, maybe with V6B (early 1976),
but it should still work on ROSS/V on VAXes unless it has Y2K problems.

-- 
John



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