[Info-vax] 2 questions, 1st regarding setting up keyboard 2nd. dcl programming

[acid.friend at yahoo.de]

On Jan 7, 3:46 am, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber... at comcast.net>
wrote:
> acid.fri... at yahoo.de wrote:
>
> Top posting corrected once again!  Please don't top post!
>
>
>
> > Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
> >> acid.fri... at yahoo.de wrote:
> >> <TOP POSTING SEMI-CORRECTED!!  Damned if I'll sort out the whole thing!!
> >>> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
> >>>> acid.fri... at yahoo.de wrote:
> >>>>> hi everybody out there,
> >>>>> i have a microvax 3100-95 and it gives me a lot of pleasure.
> >>>>> unfortunately, when i access my vax remote (gnome-terminal->jerm->COM1-
> >>>>>> OPA0:), the keyboard does not work as it should, so i'm having
> >>>>> massive issues when i need to edit files and when i don't want to use
> >>>>> my vt220.
> >>>>> i use a german keyboard. see below what happens when i hit backspace.
> >>>>> but when i login it seems to work on dcl, but when i use edi/tpu i
> >>>>> think something
> >>>>> is misconfigured.
>
> >>>>> besides i have a problem when i use long commands and when i need to
> >>>>> correct some options which i've typed before.
> >>>>> when i go to that position and start writing, the next characters get
> >>>>> overwritten.
>
> >>>>> %SET-I-INTSET, login interactive limit = 64, current interactive value
> >>>>> = 0
> >>>>>   SYSTEM       job terminated at  6-JAN-2009 01:05:08.66
>
> >>>>>   Accounting information:
> >>>>>   Buffered I/O count:            1828         Peak working set
> >>>>> size:     693
> >>>>>   Direct I/O count:               890         Peak page file
> >>>>> size:      6504
> >>>>>   Page faults:                  60566         Mounted
> >>>>> volumes:             0
> >>>>>   Charged CPU time:           0 00:00:09.65   Elapsed time:     0
> >>>>> 00:00:39.99
>
> >>>>>         Welcome to OpenVMS (TM) VAX Operating System, Version V7.1
>
> >>>>> Username: ssytem\met\
>
> >>>>> 2. i would like to write a dcl driven menu that should work like this:
>
> >>>>>  INPUT1: __________
> >>>>>  INPUT2: __________
>
> >>>>> $ typ samplemenu.com
> >>>>> $ typ/pag nl:
> >>>>> $ write sys$output ""
> >>>>> $ write sys$output ""
> >>>>> $ write sys$output " INPUT1: __________"
> >>>>> $ write sys$output " INPUT2: __________"
> >>>>> $ write sys$output ""
> >>>>> $ exit
> >>>>> $
>
> >>>>> BUT of course the cursor has to be positioned in the INPUT1 field.
> >>>>> when i write something, the underlines should remain there. how do i
> >>>>> do that? is this easy?
> >>>>> hope you know what i mean :)
> >>>> You can position the cursor using the escape codes on a VT100 compatible
> >>>> terminal.  You can use read with no echo and do your own echoing; just a
> >>>> SMOP.  You can add the underline as you echo, once again using the
> >>>> escape codes on your VT100....  Just a SMOP.
>
> >>>> I don't remember what the codes are and I'm not going to try to find my
> >>>> VT100 manual to look them up for you.  Try google!
>
> >>>> FWIW, I think it's probably more trouble than it's worth!
>
> >>>> Be grateful that the VT100 and its escape codes are a de facto standard.
> >>>> Actually, I think most of them are now an ANSI standard!
> >>  > it sounds nice and seems to be the solution, but i really cannot start
> >>  > anything with that :(
> >>  > i don't expect from you to search it for me in the web, but without
> >>  > knowing the name of the escape sequence i need it has no sense.
> >>  > how do i read with no echo and how do i do my own echoing?
> >>  > SMOP?? is it perl?
> >>  > i've thought i will receive some sample code...
>
> >>  > anyway, thank you for your help.
>
> >> Did you even TRY google??  I'm not going to do your thinking for you,
> >> nor are you likely to find anyone else who will!
>
> >> You could google for "SMOP" as well.
>
> >> If you want code I can write it for you if you can afford to pay me.  It
> >> looks to me as if it might take an hour or two.  I'll do it for $70
> >> US/hour, one hour minimum.
>
> >> Are you, by any chance, a student?   Looking for someone to do your
> >> homework?  Who is your instructor?
>
>  > of course i've tried googling for smop, but it won't help me solve
>  > this problem. SORRY!
>  > please do not do any prejudices, because you are definately not right!
>  > i'm not a student nor i'm doing any homework.
>  > i'm a private person with hobbyist licence and i always wanted to know
>  > how to realize that.
>  > first time i've seen something like that was on an AS/400, so i want
>  > to try to bring some AS/400
>  > look on my vax. later i would try to port this menu to another OS's.
>  > that's all.
>  >
>  > no harm meant!
>
> My solution would be to use cursor positioning escape sequences and
> Select Graphic Rendition sequences.
>
> Relevant sequences would seem to be:
> reverse video or underline      ESC[4m
> Cursor Backward                 ESC[PnD
> where "n" is the number of spaces to move
>
> See ANSI Standard X3.64-1979 or the DEC VT100, VT101, or VT220,
> programming manuals for full details.  Sorry, I won't part with mine for
> love nor money!  You might luck out and and find such a thing on e-Bay.
>   Or you might find a copy on-line somewhere.
>
> The "VT101 Video Terminal User Guide" I just found on my bookshelves is
> order number EK-VT101-UG-003.  The "-003" is the version number and any
> version number you can find is better than none.
>
> BTW "reverse video or underline" is determined by "Cursor SET-UP"
>
> Good luck!

hello,
thank you for your success-oriented reply.

kind regards