[Info-vax] "Shanghai Stock Exchange" and OpenVMS

Bill Gunshannon billg999 at cs.uofs.edu
Sun Jan 18 14:21:32 EST 2009


In article <mailman.4.1232292509.11955.info-vax_rbnsn.com at rbnsn.com>,
	"Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main at hp.com> writes:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com [mailto:info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com] On
>> Behalf Of johnwallace4 at yahoo.co.uk
>> Sent: January 18, 2009 9:36 AM
>> To: info-vax at rbnsn.com
>> Subject: Re: [Info-vax] "Shanghai Stock Exchange" and OpenVMS
>> 
>> On Jan 18, 1:17 pm, Neil Rieck <n.ri... at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> > http://logikalblog.com/2009/01/17/hp-ux-and-ms-windowsfail/
>> >
>> > It isn't really a surprise to anyone who knows anything about
>> > technology. It is only a shock to those missguided souls who listen
>> to
>> > that marketing firm known as The Gartner Group. Recently the Shanghai
>> > Stock Exchange announce it will be replacing its current HP UX
>> trading
>> > engine with a next generation platform developed completely on
>> > OpenVMS.
>> >
>> > NSR
>> 
>> Interestingly the item also says "A brand new twin roll steel mill
>> being built just outside of Hong Kong is going on-line inside of 18
>> months. OpenVMS will run it."
>> 
>> And Windows would ruin it, sooner or later. Seriously. I used to work
>> with a company that made control systems for steel mills, and with end
>> users in steel and paper rolling plants, with VMS in the roller
>> control loop, and response times in the low tens of milliseconds. Try
>> doing that with Windows (I have, albeit not with rolling mills, and it
>> doesn't happen). In a rolling mill, be it steel, paper, whatever,
>> mistakes, hiccups, or even downtime of any kind can be very expensive,
>> in terms of equipment damage and/or lives lost.
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> One of my favourites:
> http://www.vista-control.com/itanium_success.htm 
> Los Alamos, February 15th. 2007 After implementing mission-critical systems 
> on Windows-based computers for many years, a customer experienced a virus in 
> one of these systems that shut down production for two days while the 
> infected systems were diagnosed, restored and tested. The impact was that 
> plant production was severely impacted at no small cost. Despite internal 
> opposition because of the established standard, Vsystem on HP Itanium servers 
> running OpenVMS was chosen for the next system to be replaced."

How many tmes you going to trot out this same tired story.  Getting hit with
a virus is not as much a OS or system problem as it is a user problem.  It
is often exacerbated by the fact that the peopel setting up the Windows
system are incompetent but then, an incompetent sysadmin would be just as
disastrous to VMS.

bill

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