[Info-vax] 2009 VMS Bootcamp notice

[Bill Gunshannon]

In article <glatl6$4e9$1 at tempo.update.uu.se>,
	Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> writes:
> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> In article <TqLL22IXgJHp at spock.koehler.athome.net>,
>> 	koehler at spock.koehler.athome.net writes:
>>> In article <f_udnQFNAIAMN_HUnZ2dnUVZ_vzinZ2d at giganews.com>, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88 at comcast.net> writes:
>>>> So learn Unix.  It's not VMS, and never will be, but Unix people will be 
>>>> in demand long after VMS is laid to rest!
>>>   UNIX people will be in demand after VMS people only because VMS will
>>>   just keep quietly running along with no attention.
>> 
>> God, when will this myth finally end.  I have a Unix box here that has seen
>> no attention since it was installed in July of 2004 other than continuing to
>> add new user accounts every semester.
> 
> Really? That should be a very insecure system in that case.
> I don't know of a single version of Unix (not even OpenBSD) which 
> haven't had atleast some CERT alerts serious enough to require upgrades 
> and serious checkups.
> 
> Not that I'm claiming any superiority of VMS, but the unbiased Unix 
> praise sometimes can go a bit too far.

I have never claimed Unix is invulnerable.  That is the ballywick of
the VMS fanatics.  But, I do get tired of hearing how VMS is the
only secure OS in the world when I have dozens of machines running
Unix and (horror of horrors) Windows and while we get attacked
constantly they don't succeed.  It is possible to run a secure
operation with OSes other than VMS and it is long past time for
people here to accept that.

Of course, they won't so everyone else will just laugh up their
sleeves and let them continue in their delusion.

bill


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