[Info-vax] "Shanghai Stock Exchange" and OpenVMS

[Main, Kerry]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com [mailto:info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com] On
> Behalf Of Bill Gunshannon
> Sent: January 23, 2009 8:59 AM
> To: info-vax at rbnsn.com
> Subject: Re: [Info-vax] "Shanghai Stock Exchange" and OpenVMS
> 
> In article <00659a5f$0$10051$c3e8da3 at news.astraweb.com>,
> 	JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot at vaxination.ca> writes:
> > Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> >
> >> We wre talking about systems in corporate situations run by supposed
> >> professionals, not "your momma's PC", remember.  If they don't know
> >> how to set up a secure system and don't know where to find the info
> >> they belong on the breadline and not in the corporate datacenter.
> >
> >
> > I don't want to support Mr Main's "666 patches per week to install",
> but...
> 
> Yeah, well that's crap, too.  While XP sees fairly frequent Windows
> updates
> it is a desktop OS and if your using it for servers your an idiot
> anyway.
> I run Server 2003 and 2008 and I can assure you I don't get updates
> every
> day.
> 

Then you are not reading the Microsoft recommended patches that come 
out on every patch Tuesday every month.

Every Wintel server has IE integrated and it is the number 1 most 
hacked and patched program on the planet. Number 2 candidate is likely
ActiveX and again - a key service required by many typical programs
running on the server.


> >
> > A few years ago, the whole Québec medical IT network went down. It is
> > all windows based. (pretty scary, isn't it ?).
> 
> Mo.  People do stipid things all the time.
> 

Now that I agree with. When you build a house of cards, it does not
Take much to bring it down.

[snip...]

> >
> > One of the arguments given as explanation is that the IT guys did not
> > have sufficient budget to hire people in charge of installing patches
> to
> > protect against viri.
> 
> So, because they didn't want to pay the necessary money to hire enough
> competent people (a very legitimate business espense) it suddenly
> became
> Windows fault that this happened?  Give me a break.  So, I take my car
> in for a brake job and the dealership, in order to save money only
> hires
> $2.00/hr highschool dropouts with IQ's below 15.  When I pick up my
> car and leave the wheels fall off because he didn't tighten the lug
> nuts.  Must be Ford's fault.  Couldn't possibly be the garage.  Ford
> whould have devised self-tightening lug nuts to prevent this from
> happening.

No, a proper analogy would be you having to bring your car into the
garage *every* month to get parts updated and/or fixed, because of the
monthly recall and/or product update messages that Ford was sending 
you.

After a year or two of you bringing your car in for its monthly recall
fix and/or update, do you not soon reach a point where you say "I think 
I have a lemon!"?

[snip...]


Regards

Kerry Main
Senior Consultant
HP Services Canada
Voice: 613-254-8911
Fax: 613-591-4477
kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom
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