[Info-vax] "Shanghai Stock Exchange" and OpenVMS

[Bill Gunshannon]

In article <19dfe02a-d7a7-4d0c-be27-1c4ba069a258 at f18g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>,
	AEF <spamsink2001 at yahoo.com> writes:
> On Jan 27, 10:14 am, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber... at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>> AEF wrote:
>> > On Jan 26, 10:16 am, billg... at cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
>> >> In article <342d9c74-0b26-4c4b-9dd2-527d08958... at o36g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
>> >>         AEF <spamsink2... at yahoo.com> writes:
>>
>> >>> On Jan 24, 3:59 pm, billg... at cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
>> >>>> In article <5288d49e-e43a-463e-a02c-bffcf1393... at o4g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,
>> >>>>         AEF <spamsink2... at yahoo.com> writes:
>> >>>>> On Jan 23, 9:38 am, billg... at cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
>> >>>>>> In article <05b548fd-8d1f-48c9-80c4-777bf5f6c... at q35g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
>> >>>>>>         AEF <spamsink2... at yahoo.com> writes:
>> >>>>>>> On Jan 22, 8:41 pm, billg... at cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> In article <abd32391-46d6-49e4-aa1c-58d74dcc7... at p2g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
>> >>>>>>>>         AEF <spamsink2... at yahoo.com> writes:
>> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 22, 3:31 pm, billg... at cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>> In article <CKqdnel_5rWYS-XUnZ2dnUVZ_v_in... at giganews.com>,
>> >>>>>>>>>>         "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber... at comcast.net> writes:
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In article <0005d0dd$0$2088$c3e8... at news.astraweb.com>,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>        JF Mezei <jfmezei.spam... at vaxination.ca> writes:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>> >>> [...]
> [...]
>> >>> [...]
>> >>>> So complain to MS.  I think the fact that the online VMS docs don't
>> >>>> include an equivalent to the Unix apropos command as a serious
>> >>>> shortcoming.  We all have our pet peeves.  :-)
>> >>> Well, there is Help Hints, and I can't remember the last time I was on
>> >>> a Unix system that actually _had_ apropos.
>> >> Huh?  I can't remember one that didn't.  Oh wait, anything runnng real
>> >> AT&T SYS V.  They didn't provide any manuals. expecting you to buy paper
>> >> one's from Prentice-Hall.  No man pages, no apropos. And we all know how
>> >> well AT&T did in the IT business.  :-)
>>
>> >> So, what current version of Unix are you using that does not support the
>> >> apropos or "man -k" command?  (Hint: they are the exact same command!)
>>
>> > bash-3.00$ apropos
>> > apropos what?
>> > bash-3.00$ aspopos copy
>> > bash: aspopos: command not found
>> > bash-3.00$ man -k
>> > usage:  man [-] [-adFlrt] [-M path] [-T macro-package ] [ -s section ]
>> > name ...
>> >         man [-M path] -k keyword ...
>> >         man [-M path] -f file ...
>> > bash-3.00$ man -k copy
>> > /usr/share/man/windex: No such file or directory
>> > bash-3.00$
> I misspelled apropos. It was late. (\&-){
>                                      \ /
>                                       V
> Here's the corrected version:
> bash-3.00$ man -k copy
> /usr/share/man/windex: No such file or directory
> bash-3.00$ apropos copy
> /usr/share/man/windex: No such file or directory
> bash-3.00$ man -k
> usage:  man [-] [-adFlrt] [-M path] [-T macro-package ] [ -s section ]
> name ...
>         man [-M path] -k keyword ...
>         man [-M path] -f file ...
> bash-3.00$ apropos
> apropos what?
> bash-3.00$

My suggestion.  Stop using Unix.

>> > OK, how do I learn how to copy? How do I find out the version? I know
>> > it's Solaris something, probably 8.
>>
>> cp
>> uname -r
>>
>> In the more general case you buy or borrow a book called "Solaris for
>> Complete Idiots", or some similar title.  You can generally find one or
>> three at  a big book store.  Or, you can just go to Amazon.com and
>> search for "Solaris".  You will probably have to qualify that because
>> the name "Solaris" is used for other things than Operating Systems.
>>
>> When you finish the book, you'll still be a complete idiot but you may
>> have learned how to copy, how to find out the O/S version, etc.  Note
>> that getting hard copy output is part of the advanced course!!
> Thanks, Richard.
> I meant "How do I learn how to copy in Unix using the apropos
> command"? Bill is telling us how great the command is and I'm already
> having trouble using it.

See above.  Nothing I say or do is going to change your bias so there is
really no reason for me to waste my time. 

> BTW, have you ever seen Unix for Dummies? It's unbelievably bad and
> hyper-corny.

Al the "* for Dummies" books are that way.  It is quite deliberate.  I
don't believe any of them are actually intended to teach anything, just
make money for the autors and publisher.

bill

-- 
Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolves
billg999 at cs.scranton.edu |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
University of Scranton   |
Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>