[Info-vax] "Shanghai Stock Exchange" and OpenVMS

[Richard B. Gilbert]

AEF wrote:
> On Jan 27, 10:14 am, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber... at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>> AEF wrote:
>>> On Jan 26, 10:16 am, billg... at cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
>>>> In article <342d9c74-0b26-4c4b-9dd2-527d08958... at o36g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>         AEF <spamsink2... at yahoo.com> writes:
>>>>> On Jan 24, 3:59 pm, billg... at cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
>>>>>> In article <5288d49e-e43a-463e-a02c-bffcf1393... at o4g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>         AEF <spamsink2... at yahoo.com> writes:
>>>>>>> On Jan 23, 9:38 am, billg... at cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <05b548fd-8d1f-48c9-80c4-777bf5f6c... at q35g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>>         AEF <spamsink2... at yahoo.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 22, 8:41 pm, billg... at cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In article <abd32391-46d6-49e4-aa1c-58d74dcc7... at p2g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>         AEF <spamsink2... at yahoo.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 22, 3:31 pm, billg... at cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <CKqdnel_5rWYS-XUnZ2dnUVZ_v_in... at giganews.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>         "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber... at comcast.net> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <0005d0dd$0$2088$c3e8... at news.astraweb.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>        JF Mezei <jfmezei.spam... at vaxination.ca> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>>>>> [...]
> [...]
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>> So complain to MS.  I think the fact that the online VMS docs don't
>>>>>> include an equivalent to the Unix apropos command as a serious
>>>>>> shortcoming.  We all have our pet peeves.  :-)
>>>>> Well, there is Help Hints, and I can't remember the last time I was on
>>>>> a Unix system that actually _had_ apropos.
>>>> Huh?  I can't remember one that didn't.  Oh wait, anything runnng real
>>>> AT&T SYS V.  They didn't provide any manuals. expecting you to buy paper
>>>> one's from Prentice-Hall.  No man pages, no apropos. And we all know how
>>>> well AT&T did in the IT business.  :-)
>>>> So, what current version of Unix are you using that does not support the
>>>> apropos or "man -k" command?  (Hint: they are the exact same command!)
>>> bash-3.00$ apropos
>>> apropos what?
>>> bash-3.00$ aspopos copy
>>> bash: aspopos: command not found
>>> bash-3.00$ man -k
>>> usage:  man [-] [-adFlrt] [-M path] [-T macro-package ] [ -s section ]
>>> name ...
>>>         man [-M path] -k keyword ...
>>>         man [-M path] -f file ...
>>> bash-3.00$ man -k copy
>>> /usr/share/man/windex: No such file or directory
>>> bash-3.00$
> 
> I misspelled apropos. It was late. (\&-){
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> 
> Here's the corrected version:
> 
> bash-3.00$ man -k copy
> /usr/share/man/windex: No such file or directory
> bash-3.00$ apropos copy
> /usr/share/man/windex: No such file or directory
> bash-3.00$ man -k
> usage:  man [-] [-adFlrt] [-M path] [-T macro-package ] [ -s section ]
> name ...
>         man [-M path] -k keyword ...
>         man [-M path] -f file ...
> bash-3.00$ apropos
> apropos what?
> bash-3.00$
> 
>>> OK, how do I learn how to copy? How do I find out the version? I know
>>> it's Solaris something, probably 8.
>> cp
>> uname -r
>>
>> In the more general case you buy or borrow a book called "Solaris for
>> Complete Idiots", or some similar title.  You can generally find one or
>> three at  a big book store.  Or, you can just go to Amazon.com and
>> search for "Solaris".  You will probably have to qualify that because
>> the name "Solaris" is used for other things than Operating Systems.
>>
>> When you finish the book, you'll still be a complete idiot but you may
>> have learned how to copy, how to find out the O/S version, etc.  Note
>> that getting hard copy output is part of the advanced course!!
> 
> Thanks, Richard.
> 
> I meant "How do I learn how to copy in Unix using the apropos
> command"? Bill is telling us how great the command is and I'm already
> having trouble using it.
> 
> BTW, have you ever seen Unix for Dummies? It's unbelievably bad and
> hyper-corny.
> 

None of the books is very good but some are worse than others.  Most of 
them give you enough to get started but only experience will make you an 
expert.  O'Reilly & Associates publishes some very good books.

Here are some of the books on my shelves that I found good enough to keep:

"Sun Certified Solaris 9.0 Systetm and Network Administrator Exam 
Guide", Paul A. Watters, PhD. 710 pages, (this one has at least a dozen 
errors)  The others probably have errors too but this one stimulated me 
to start counting. . . .
Solaris Advanced System Administrator's Guide" Second Edition by Janice 
Winsor 555 pages.
"Unix System Administrator's Companion" Michael R. Ault
"UNIX Shell Programming" revised edition, Stephen C. Kochan and Patrick 
H. Wood
"Unix System Administration Handbook" by Evi Nemeth, Garth Snyder and 
Scott Seebass
"Learning the VI editor"
"sed and awk"
"Learning the Korn Shell"
I have more but they are downstairs and I'm too lazy. . . .
There are probably hundreds more; some better and some worse.   See 
what, if anything, your local library has.  Do that first; it may save 
you a bundle of money!!  You may find a book or two good enough that you 
want a copy of your very own!