[Info-vax] "Shanghai Stock Exchange" and OpenVMS

[Richard B. Gilbert]

AEF wrote:
> On Jan 27, 9:56 pm, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber... at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>> AEF wrote:
>>> On Jan 27, 12:13 pm, billg... at cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
>>>> In article <19dfe02a-d7a7-4d0c-be27-1c4ba069a... at f18g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>         AEF <spamsink2... at yahoo.com> writes:
>>>>> On Jan 27, 10:14 am, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber... at comcast.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> AEF wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jan 26, 10:16 am, billg... at cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <342d9c74-0b26-4c4b-9dd2-527d08958... at o36g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>>         AEF <spamsink2... at yahoo.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 24, 3:59 pm, billg... at cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In article <5288d49e-e43a-463e-a02c-bffcf1393... at o4g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>         AEF <spamsink2... at yahoo.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 23, 9:38 am, billg... at cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <05b548fd-8d1f-48c9-80c4-777bf5f6c... at q35g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>         AEF <spamsink2... at yahoo.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 22, 8:41 pm, billg... at cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <abd32391-46d6-49e4-aa1c-58d74dcc7... at p2g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         AEF <spamsink2... at yahoo.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 22, 3:31 pm, billg... at cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <CKqdnel_5rWYS-XUnZ2dnUVZ_v_in... at giganews.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber... at comcast.net> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <0005d0dd$0$2088$c3e8... at news.astraweb.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>        JF Mezei <jfmezei.spam... at vaxination.ca> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>> So complain to MS.  I think the fact that the online VMS docs don't
>>>>>>>>>> include an equivalent to the Unix apropos command as a serious
>>>>>>>>>> shortcoming.  We all have our pet peeves.  :-)
>>>>>>>>> Well, there is Help Hints, and I can't remember the last time I was on
>>>>>>>>> a Unix system that actually _had_ apropos.
>>>>>>>> Huh?  I can't remember one that didn't.  Oh wait, anything runnng real
>>>>>>>> AT&T SYS V.  They didn't provide any manuals. expecting you to buy paper
>>>>>>>> one's from Prentice-Hall.  No man pages, no apropos. And we all know how
>>>>>>>> well AT&T did in the IT business.  :-)
>>>>>>>> So, what current version of Unix are you using that does not support the
>>>>>>>> apropos or "man -k" command?  (Hint: they are the exact same command!)
>>>>>>> bash-3.00$ apropos
>>>>>>> apropos what?
>>>>>>> bash-3.00$ aspopos copy
>>>>>>> bash: aspopos: command not found
>>>>>>> bash-3.00$ man -k
>>>>>>> usage:  man [-] [-adFlrt] [-M path] [-T macro-package ] [ -s section ]
>>>>>>> name ...
>>>>>>>         man [-M path] -k keyword ...
>>>>>>>         man [-M path] -f file ...
>>>>>>> bash-3.00$ man -k copy
>>>>>>> /usr/share/man/windex: No such file or directory
>>>>>>> bash-3.00$
>>>>> I misspelled apropos. It was late. (\&-){
>>>>>                                      \ /
>>>>>                                       V
>>>>> Here's the corrected version:
>>>>> bash-3.00$ man -k copy
>>>>> /usr/share/man/windex: No such file or directory
>>>>> bash-3.00$ apropos copy
>>>>> /usr/share/man/windex: No such file or directory
>>>>> bash-3.00$ man -k
>>>>> usage:  man [-] [-adFlrt] [-M path] [-T macro-package ] [ -s section ]
>>>>> name ...
>>>>>         man [-M path] -k keyword ...
>>>>>         man [-M path] -f file ...
>>>>> bash-3.00$ apropos
>>>>> apropos what?
>>>>> bash-3.00$
>>>> My suggestion.  Stop using Unix.
>>> Now how is that going to show me how to use the apropos command?
>>>>>>> OK, how do I learn how to copy? How do I find out the version? I know
>>>>>>> it's Solaris something, probably 8.
>>>>>> cp
>>> Yes, I know that's the copy command. I was wondering how you use the
>>> apropos command. I thought you were supposed to give it a search word
>>> like copy and it would come up with the man page for cp or something
>>> like that. I guess I'll have to hunt down the answer on the Web. I
>>> even tried man apropos and it says:
>>> NAME
>>>      apropos - locate commands by keyword lookup
>>> SYNOPSIS
>>>      apropos keyword...
>>> DESCRIPTION
>>>      The apropos utility displays  the  man  page  name,  section
>>>      number, and a short description for each man page whose NAME
>>>      line contains keyword.  This information is contained in the
>>> Okay, copy is in the "NAME line" for cp, yet apropos copy does not
>>> give the man page for cp or even mention cp:
>>> NAME
>>>      cp - copy files
>>> Okay, the keyword 'copy' is in the NAME line. But:
>>> bash-3.00$ man -k copy files
>> Try man -k "copy files"
>>
>> It's all in knowing how!
> 
> Except when it doesn't work:
> 
> bash-3.00$ man -k "copy files"
> /usr/share/man/windex: No such file or directory
> bash-3.00$
> 

It works for me on a full installation of Solaris 10.

You DO need to do a little setup to make this work.  I managed to get 
through it about five years ago and haven't needed to do it since. See 
(I think) man catman and the "-w" option.

> And even if it did work, do I really need to enter that exact phrase
> "copy files"? Doesn't that kind of defeat the entire purpose of the
> command?
> 

Yes, you do!  WITH the quotation marks!

If you wish to talk with a machine, you must limit yourself to the 
vocabulary and syntax that it understands.  The quotes make "copy files" 
one argument rather than two!