[Info-vax] Happy 25th birthday Macintosh !

[Bill Gunshannon]

In article <4983cf00$0$5492$bbae4d71 at news.suddenlink.net>,
	Paul <paul-nospamatall.raulerson at mac.com> writes:
> On 2009-01-26 12:01:54 -0600, billg999 at cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) said:
> 
>> And, the same is true of an Ubuntu install on any other piece of hardware.
>> And the argument, "Well, only if the hardware is supported." applies equally
>> to Mac with the proviso that Ubuntu is likely to support a lot more hardware
>> than OS-X.
> 
> You need to listen closer to your Guru - a basic install will install a 
> fully usable
> Mac, including all the normal internet tools such as Safari & Mail, as well as
> all the underlying UNIX stuff such as ssh and ftp.
> 
> Further you get fully functional photo management, DVD creation, 
> multi-track music
> recording, media management, DVD player, VPN software, and a whole bunch more.
> 
> As well as X11 and all the attendent UNIX stuff, like vi, fgrep, etc.

Well, he specificly stated that X-11 was not included in the base install.
I would guess that means no Office suite as the only suites I know of for
the Mac are MS and OpenOffice which would require X-11.

> 
> You *do* have to install the compilers separately, and wordprocessing, 
> spreadsheet,
> and presentation software costs and extra $79 from Apple - or you can use the
> Unix stuff like OpenOffice for free.

And all of this is included in Ubuntu in the base install.  So, which is
easier?

> 
> That's just for starters by the way.
> 
> You can even compile and run SIMH on the Mac with ease, and run OpenVMS 
> pretty well.

After you manually install the compilers, of course.  :-)

bill

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