[Info-vax] The Magnificent 7 (Or as Jose would say "1")

[Richard Maher]

Last I saw, IBM MQseries was available on VMS (don't know if it went on to
WebSphere MQ). And then there's the old DEQmessageQ that went to BEA (now
Oracle as BMQ) whether that can talk to MSMQ I don't know.

Both IBM and BEA/Oracle may well have recently desupported their MQ
offerings on VMS ever since some self-serving HP/VMS dickhead decided to
bundle RTR for free - I don't know. What I do know is that RTR shite is in
mothballs (does anyone except OMX use it) and 1/2 doz "new" messaging
products are once again being touted to justify the existence of great
swathes of HP/VMS employees :-(

Regards Richard Maher

PS. It's not the recidivistic nature of this filth that upsets me; I guess
if God did not want the same stupid pig customers that keep turning up at
HP/VMS, to be shorn (again and again) then he wouldn't have made them sheep,
and other mixed metaphors.

It's just that RTR was oft used as justification for the abandonment of
DECdtm. And great engineers Jim Johnson who sailed off to Microsoft MTS/DTC
(What DECdtm could have been!) and Alan Potter were shown the door. And the
same people that were making the decisions at VMS then are still making them
now; it's just there's less and less talented people :-(

(BTW, what's wrong with some "TCP/IP thingy"? Functional requirements?)

<christery at gmail.com> wrote in message
news:54a9515b-2cea-4737-bc6c-3b7ef2205746 at p20g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
> MSMQ (Microsoft MessageQueue) works nicley on Windows 2k or XP or
> whatever we are using, but to interact with a VMS we use IBM Websphere
> (form. IBM MQ) is there a way to go directly (no java please) VMS/Win
> without writing some special TCP/IP thingy? Yes I'v seen a adapter
> from level7 (?) bougth up by IBM that did this, is ther another one?
>
> Now using FTP but it (due to polling or poor programming) give some
> delays as all outgoing si stored locally and incoming si fetched from
> the remote system (buffering). nor is it nice in a sence of logging/
> journalling, the buffering is great though ;).
>
> VMS 8.2 (for this app) and lower for the rest 8)
> just shut down a uVAX II with 4.5 from 80-something...
> The PDP 11/84 is still running, production is on an emulator but
> development/spare HW is still PDP, all with RSXM11+
>
> //CY