[Info-vax] OT: Elephants Can't Dance

[johnwallace4 at yahoo.co.uk]

On Mar 1, 9:04 pm, Michael Austin <maus... at firstdbasource.com> wrote:
> sapienzaf wrote:
> > Here's my point about Oracle buying OpenVMS being a bad thing.
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> <snip>
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> > I also don't think Oracle needs or wants to be an operating system
> > company.  They seem to be quite comfortable with a multi-platform
> > database and associated applications.
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> Ummmmm, you might want to rethink this statement given that they now are
> actively developing and support Oracle Enterprise Linux.  Granted, they
> stole it from RedHat, but they have stated they are in that business for
> the foreseeable future - as evidenced by the use of this in their
> Exadata server (similar paradigm to the Niteeza and Teradata).  The
> hardware is currently only available from HP but, again, the underlying
> OS is OEL.
>
> BTW, you are aware that the CRS (Cluster-Ready-Services) in 10gRAC
> **IS** the cluster manager from VMS (via Tru64)... ???
>
> As for previous discussions about the cross-pollenization of RDB/RDBMS,
> I have seen a LOT of features from Rdb slowly make their way into the
> RDBMS product.  CBO, partitioning, in 11g - meta-data versioning,
> Locally managed tablespaces (they use the same RDBMS terms, but in
> reality it is the Rdb storage area management.  Initially when Rdb was
> sold to Oracle, they were talks of merging the two products into one
> BEST-IN-CLASS product.  AFTER the deal was "done" they realized and
> stated that such a merger would be 15-20 year project.  We are at year
> 14 in that timeline.  RDBMS STILL does not have the means to do
> near-realtime instance/database monitoring like RMU/SH STATS...  If they
>   did, they would wipe out many of those "after-market" tools like I3
> that sort-of does this.. then we could replace those
> horrendous-performing "scripts" to try and figure out the same stuff...

What does "**IS** the cluster manager from VMS (via Tru64)" mean? VMS
doesn't have (or need) a cluster manager as such, it's all kind of
"built in" wherever it makes sense.