[Info-vax] HP to distribute Solaris

Bill Gunshannon billg999 at cs.uofs.edu
Wed Mar 4 08:13:21 EST 2009


In article <U7SdnQ_pDchOaTDUnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d at giganews.com>,
	"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88 at comcast.net> writes:
> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> In article <Kskrl.8148$jZ1.1649 at flpi144.ffdc.sbc.com>,
>> 	Michael Austin <maustin at firstdbasource.com> writes:
>>> IanMiller wrote:
>>>> On 3 Mar, 13:40, "John Smith \(not the one @ HP\)" <a... at nonymous.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/unix_linux/showArticle.j...
>>>>
>>>> Press release from last month http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2009/090225xa.html
>>>>
>>>> I guess this deal could sell more HP systems :-)
>>>
>>> All I have to say is - RUN FORREST RUN!!!!!!
>>>
>>> The context switching of Solaris is still horrendous.  It does not seem 
>>> to have improved over the last 20 years at all...  it is still crap. 
>>> (and I have a VERY large DW that can prove it...)
>> 
>> Solaris hasn't been around for 20 years.  SunOS, their offering prior
>> to jumping on the (badly flawed) System V bandwagon was a very good
>> implementation of BSD with a lot of promise.  But as we all know all
>> too well, technical superiority is not what decides the winner in the
>> marketplace.
>> 
>> bill
>> 
>> 
> 
> It's still called "SunOS"
> sunblok_$  uname -a
> SunOS sunblok 5.8 Generic_108528-13 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-5_10
> sunburn_$  uname -a
> SunOS sunburn 5.10 Generic_118833-36 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-5_10

Yes, but they no longer market it as SunOS.  And, to be pedantic,
thew very first version actually called Solaris (1.0) was, in fact,
SunOS with none of the, to come, SYS V inanities.  but once it went
to being a SYS V derivitive rather than being BSD based it went
downhill fast.  The very first version was so significantly slower
that the majority of people didn't even change.  By the second
version of Solaris, even though it was still dog slow and very unstable
users were forced to make the decision, either change to Solaris or
change to something other than Sun.  (The primary reason being that
they had stopped all development, even security updates for SunOS and
this being the time when the INTERNET was opened up to the unwashed
masses attacks were ont he rise and security problems were showing up.
That was the point where we stopped being a Sun shop here.)
 
> I think that takes care of the last eight or ten years!

I would have to look for a timeline, but regardless of what the
market-droids called it there was a sharp line when Sun abandoned
BSD in favor of the very inferior SYS V.  Kinda like what people
are doing with Linux today!!  The more things change the more they
stay the same.

bill

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