[Info-vax] How to MOTIF?

[Steven Schweda]

Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER wrote:

> I know of the 7500 and their variants (as I wrote here months/years ago)
> Problem is, that I so far had no source for them. (And Island is far
> beyond my budget for this old/hobby system). So, I started w/o X11 then.

   I've been buying mine on Ebay.  I think that the last one cost
about
$25.

urbancamo wrote:
> > Why do you think, that the status of (USB) mouse and keyboard is related
> > to the status of a (PCI) graphics adapter?
>
> This may be down to the fact that without the USB keyboard plugged in
> you get a very cryptic error message just after boot up and the system
> halts. [...]

   News to me.  I've had no trouble booting any of my systems
with no keyboard and mouse.  At least none which I can recall.

   As I said, I'm away from the systems at the moment, so I
can't be sure about what's connected to whom, but my zx2000,
which I believe to have a USB keyboard and eek connected, seems
to have a nice assortment of DECwindows input devices:

IT $ show devi I

Device                  Device           Error
 Name                   Status           Count
INA0:                   Offline              0
IMU0:                   Offline              0
IKU0:                   Offline              0

And it seems to be running DECwindows:
IT $ show system /proc = decw*
OpenVMS V8.3-1H1  on node IT   10-MAR-2009 22:33:58.63   Uptime  0
00:15:39
  Pid    Process Name    State  Pri      I/O       CPU       Page
flts  Pages
2620042E DECW$SERVER_0   HIB      8     1210   0 00:00:00.31
3303   2745
26200439 DECW$CONSOLE    LEF      6     3854   0 00:00:00.40
622    646

On the other hand, the available rx2600, which I believe to
have no keyboard and eek connected, has none:

REX $ show devi I
%SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHDEV, no such device available

And seems not to be running DECwindows:

REX $ show system /proc = decw*
REX $

As already shown, both systems have at least one PCI Radeon
card installed.

   I assume that if the keyboard and eek are not found, then
DECwindows doesn't start, but I certainly have had no problems
with anything halting because they're not connected.  It's been
a while, and my memory has little value, but as I recall, I
started out with no graphics card or keyboard or eek on the
zx2000, and it worked fine with a serial console, too.  Perhaps
the zx6000 differs radically from the zx2000 (and the rx2600)
in this respect, but I doubt it.

> So, I need to open the box and see what I'll find then.

   Makes more sense than asking me.

> PS: Next problem would be then, where to get more diskspace.

   Uh, more disks or bigger disks?  My systems (both the zx2000
and rx2600, I believe) have external SCSI ports, so the number
of built-in disk bays is not a hard limit.  Certainly, the
rx2600 is lousy with the things:

REX $ show devi /full PK

Device PKA0:, device type HP LSI1030 Ultra320 SCSI, [...]
[...]
Device PKB0:, device type HP LSI1030 Ultra320 SCSI, [...]
[...]
Device PKC0:, device type HP LSI1010 Ultra160 SCSI, [...]
[...]
Device PKD0:, device type HP LSI1010 Ultra160 SCSI, [...]
[...]

   SMS.