[Info-vax] Dave Cutler, Prism, DEC, Microsoft, etc.

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In article <7lko03F3e5hd8U4 at mid.individual.net>, Bob Eager <rde42 at spamcop.net> writes:
>On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:08:26 +0000, VAXman- wrote:
>
>> In article <7ljgvjF3e5hd8U2 at mid.individual.net>, Bob Eager
>> <rde42 at spamcop.net> writes:
>>>On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:45:24 +0000, VAXman- wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <iNqdnfhzKIfVi2nXnZ2dnUVZ_jSdnZ2d at giganews.com>, "Richard
>>>> B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88 at comcast.net> writes:
>>>>>Neil Rieck wrote:
>>>>>> Since any idiot can put up a web page these days, you know it all
>>>>>> can't be true. So imagine my surprise when I bumped into this:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://radsoft.net/rants/20040831,00.shtml
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <quote>Dave always wanted to rewrite VMS in C. He hated Unix but
>>>>>> loved C. As soon as he'd finished VMS he suggested the rewrite. He
>>>>>> was turned down flat. Several years later he found himself in
>>>>>> Seattle and essentially was doing the rewrite in C when word came
>>>>>> DEC were tired of him.</quote>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This article contains lots of other (possibly) questionable facts,
>>>>>> but think about the statement above "rewrite VMS in C". If this had
>>>>>> happened, we would have VMS or OpenVMS on any platform including
>>>>>> x86-64
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> NSR
>>>>>
>>>>>Not ANY platform!  There are architectural requirements; things like
>>>>>number and sizes of registers, processor modes, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>Many years ago, somebody wrote PCVMS.  I bought a copy.  It had a DCL
>>>>>like command language, and VMS-like system services.  It was NOT VMS.
>>>> 
>>>> Wendin Associate.  I had a copy too when I was working at Lakehurst
>>>> NAEC.  It was considered a toy and little more.
>>>
>>>It's wasn't a serious attempt. The real product was a small OS kernel,
>>>with multiple 'personalities' laid on top. There was a PC-UNIX which was
>>>equally unlike UNIX.
>>>
>>>I have disks and manuals for PC-VMS somewhere...
>> 
>> I have the disks (or images of) but no manuals.  Can you scan them and
>> make them available?  I'll put them on-line with the disk images if you
>> would.
>
>Yes, but since Vista has broken my scanner driver, it may take a while...

Ah, Vista (Visual Interface Similar To Apple's) Just buy a Mac! ;)  
I have a Canon LiDE.  It works like a charm with Ubuntu Linux and
on my Mac.

If you'd snail mail them to me, I'd make the copies and smail mail
the originals back to you.

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