[Info-vax] IDC 2CQ09 Worldwide Server Tracker shows positive results for HP
IanMiller
gxys at uk2.net
Sat Sep 12 13:15:55 EDT 2009
On 11 Sep, 08:40, John Wallace <johnwalla... at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sep 11, 8:24 am, IanMiller <g... at uk2.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 10 Sep, 00:07, Arne Vajhøj <a... at vajhoej.dk> wrote:
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> > > JF Mezei wrote:
> > > > Keith Parris wrote:
> > > >> More details at:
> > > >>http://h71028.www7.hp.com/enterprise/us/en/messaging/realstory-server...
>
> > > > ##
> > > > Fact 3: For the 52nd consecutive quarter, 13 years, HP ProLiant is the
> > > > x86 server market share leader in both factory revenue and units1,
> > > > shipping more than 1 out of every 3 servers in this market with a 35.6%
> > > > unit share.
> > > > ##
>
> > > > I like the "factory revenue". Does this mean that if HP were to donate
> > > > 10,000 servers to some research lab (nuclear, dna research etc), it
> > > > would still generate "factory revenus" even though it would not generate
> > > > "corporate" revenus ?
>
> > > If one is interested in getting a view of what servers are out there,
> > > then counting gift servers makes perfect sense.
>
> > > Given the size of the x86 server market the you can be sure that the
> > > figures are not permanently manipulated via gifts.
>
> > > > ##
> > > > Fact 4: HP is the number 1 supplier of Itanium (EPIC) based systems
> > > > based on worldwide unit volume and worldwide factory revenue.
> > > > HP’s Integrity factory revenue was more than Sun’s SPARC revenue.
> > > > ##
>
> > > > Well, since HP is the last maker of them IA64 contraptions, of course it
> > > > can claim it is #1. But being the last one stuck with a platform isn't
> > > > something HP should brag about. And again that "fatory revenue"
> > > > qualifier which means they can't use real revenus.
>
> > > Not true.
>
> > > Hitachi sells Itanium based systems.
>
> > > > There are rumours that Oracle may donate Sun's hardware business to HP.
>
> > > I don't think Larry Ellison will donate anything. Maybe sell it for a
> > > good price.
>
> > > (a good price for SUN server business is not nearly as much as it
> > > were 10 ago, but ...)
>
> > > Arne
>
> > SGI make Itanium based systems
>
> I don't think SGI is a particularly helpful example for Itanium. The
> various incarnations of SGI have worked with many commodity chip
> families and all of them including the recent one that sold Itanium
> systems have still managed to go under. What used to be SGI was bought
> by the company formerly known as Rackable earlier this year and
> Rackable promptly renamed themselves to SGI. Whether the new owners
> will continue with Itanium remains to be seen.
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/27/sgi_server_roadmap/
As the Itatium-based SGI Altix 4700 seems to be getting good press
recently perhaps they might keep that one.
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