[Info-vax] OT: Rob Short: Operating System Evolution

Arne Vajhøj arne at vajhoej.dk
Mon Jan 4 19:56:46 EST 2010


On 04-01-2010 09:33, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> In article<4b40c08e$0$280$14726298 at news.sunsite.dk>,
> 	Arne Vajhøj<arne at vajhoej.dk>  writes:
>> On 03-01-2010 10:48, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>>> In article<obydncht8rSnK93WnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d at giganews.com>, "Richard B. Gilbert"<rgilbert88 at comcast.net>   writes:
>>>> VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>>>>> In article<4b40a5e2$0$280$14726298 at news.sunsite.dk>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?=<arne at vajhoej.dk>   writes:
>>>>>> On 02-01-2010 23:22, JF Mezei wrote:
>>>>>>> Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But but but - did you unzip the container before
>>>>>>>> looking at it??
>>>>>>> If it was a zipped XML file, why was its extention not ".ZIP" ????
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How the<4 letter word that begins with H and ends with ELL>    is one
>>>>>>> supposed to know that some proprietary Microsoft format is a zip archive ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And if it was so easy to just unzip it, why was I told I needed a
>>>>>>> proprioetary micsrosoft application to convert that format to a .DOC or
>>>>>>> XML format readable by some other application ?
>>>>>> A .docx file is a zip file containing XML files.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you rename it to .zip and look into it then you will
>>>>>> see a bunch of xml files. I believe document.xml is the
>>>>>> one you will want.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The extension is not .zip because then double clicking on it
>>>>>> would open a zip utility/filebrowser instead of the intended
>>>>>> Word.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is not a proprietary format but standardized format. Only
>>>>>> around 10000 pages of specification.  :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To read it then I would also have suggested an office
>>>>>> application. It is not that easy to read that XML. MS Office
>>>>>> is obvious, but I believe that OpenOffice should be able
>>>>>> to read it as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're saying that a .DOC is XML?  I thought it was proprietary M$ W(ei)RD.
>>>>
>>>> You can use any extension you like and it has little or nothing to to
>>>> with the file contents.  Programs will make assumptions about format and
>>>> content based on the extension but don't let that limit your creativity!
>>>
>>> Well, VMS doesn't and that brings this back to being a VMS thread.
>>
>> The *nix and Win way is that extension implies content
>
> Hate to ruin your day, but *nix doesn't care what you use for an
> extension on anything.  There is absolutely no significance of any
> extension at the OS level.

No.

But the tools and utilities on top of the OS make those
assumptions.

Which is the same as on VMS.

Arne



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