[Info-vax] IE8 got me too :-( Sorry Jeff.

Bill Gunshannon billg999 at cs.uofs.edu
Mon Jan 18 08:47:47 EST 2010


In article <4b53ca5d$0$273$14726298 at news.sunsite.dk>,
	Arne Vajhøj <arne at vajhoej.dk> writes:
> On 14-01-2010 08:07, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> In article<4b4e8718$0$282$14726298 at news.sunsite.dk>,
>> 	Arne Vajhøj<arne at vajhoej.dk>  writes:
>>> On 13-01-2010 21:31, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>>>> In article<4b4e7946$0$279$14726298 at news.sunsite.dk>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?=<arne at vajhoej.dk>   writes:
>>>>> On 13-01-2010 08:50, AEF wrote:
>>>>>> I actually tried IE8 at work, hoping it would be better than IE6. But
>>>>>> it was blurrier on the monitor. I checked it on others' machines and
>>>>>> the blurriness varied, and all the monitors were ViewSonics. (I did
>>>>>> only check 2 or 3 others, but mine was blurrier than IE6 and that's
>>>>>> all that really mattered to me.) So I went back to IE6. And I did
>>>>>> check if you could do that before I tried IE8. It turns out that all
>>>>>> you have to do is uninstall it, except that a certain OS patch would
>>>>>> get in the way if you have it and you'd have to uninstall that first,
>>>>>> then reinstall after expunging IE8 from your machine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do have Firefox installed at work and I use that for some sites, but
>>>>>> others work better on IE6. Hate the spastic Find function in IE6, but
>>>>>> at least you can use it to highlight a link, or get near it with an
>>>>>> easier target and then tab to the link, and without the mouse just
>>>>>> press Return and it works! Safari can't do that, but Safari is better
>>>>>> with multiple choice items in forms and for printing. Safari puts all
>>>>>> the print params on a single page! I've never understood why all the
>>>>>> important things like page size, orientation, number of copies,
>>>>>> certain things on the Page Setup dialog box and such aren't all in one
>>>>>> place. WHY THE HELL DON'T THEY PUT THEM ALL IN ONE PLACE LIKE SAFARI
>>>>>> DOES? Arghhhh.
>>>>>
>>>>> IE6 is pretty bad in AJAX context due to its deviation
>>>> >from the standards. IE8 is a lot better. It actually passed
>>>>> ACID2.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know when it can pass ACID3.  AFAIK, only Safari does so.  Firefox is
>>>> close.  It gets to 93/100.
>>>
>>> Opera 10 also passed.
>>>
>>> IE8 will most likely never pass ACID3. It will be IE9.
>>
>> And if you are writting web pages that use features of ACID3 that IE
>> doesn't do and you competitor is not who is going to pay the price?
>> The target should be your desired audience and not some obscure ivory
>> tower standard.
> 
> It is very good to follow the standards.

Only if there is some tangible gain in doing so beyond the desires
(and profits) of the standards body.

> 
> It may not be good to use all features in the standard.

Most of the standards I have seen are all or nothing.  If you ignore
parts of the standard then you are just as non-compliant as if you
used none of it.

bill 

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