[Info-vax] IE8 got me too :-( Sorry Jeff.

[Bill Gunshannon]

In article <4b53cebf$0$273$14726298 at news.sunsite.dk>,
	Arne Vajhøj <arne at vajhoej.dk> writes:
> On 14-01-2010 11:45, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> In article<00A97896.C166AAF9 at sendspamhere.org>,
>> 	VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG writes:
>>> In article<7r8j3oF3qnU2 at mid.individual.net>, billg999 at cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:
>>>> In article<00A97820.3EB74593 at sendspamhere.org>,
>>>> 	VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG writes:
>>>>> In article<4b4e7946$0$279$14726298 at news.sunsite.dk>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?=<arne at vajhoej.dk>  writes:
>>>>>> On 13-01-2010 08:50, AEF wrote:
>>>>>>> I actually tried IE8 at work, hoping it would be better than IE6. But
>>>>>>> it was blurrier on the monitor. I checked it on others' machines and
>>>>>>> the blurriness varied, and all the monitors were ViewSonics. (I did
>>>>>>> only check 2 or 3 others, but mine was blurrier than IE6 and that's
>>>>>>> all that really mattered to me.) So I went back to IE6. And I did
>>>>>>> check if you could do that before I tried IE8. It turns out that all
>>>>>>> you have to do is uninstall it, except that a certain OS patch would
>>>>>>> get in the way if you have it and you'd have to uninstall that first,
>>>>>>> then reinstall after expunging IE8 from your machine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do have Firefox installed at work and I use that for some sites, but
>>>>>>> others work better on IE6. Hate the spastic Find function in IE6, but
>>>>>>> at least you can use it to highlight a link, or get near it with an
>>>>>>> easier target and then tab to the link, and without the mouse just
>>>>>>> press Return and it works! Safari can't do that, but Safari is better
>>>>>>> with multiple choice items in forms and for printing. Safari puts all
>>>>>>> the print params on a single page! I've never understood why all the
>>>>>>> important things like page size, orientation, number of copies,
>>>>>>> certain things on the Page Setup dialog box and such aren't all in one
>>>>>>> place. WHY THE HELL DON'T THEY PUT THEM ALL IN ONE PLACE LIKE SAFARI
>>>>>>> DOES? Arghhhh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IE6 is pretty bad in AJAX context due to its deviation
>>>>> >from the standards. IE8 is a lot better. It actually passed
>>>>>> ACID2.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know when it can pass ACID3.  AFAIK, only Safari does so.  Firefox is
>>>>> close.  It gets to 93/100.
>>>>
>>>> Why should anyone care?  It is good business to make sure your web
>>>> pages work with as many browsers as possible and not just with some
>>>> obscure standard. It is customers being able to see your web page
>>>> that makes sales, not some claim that you wrote your page to comply
>>>> with ACID3.
>>>>
>>>> Too many people in this profession have lost site of the core value.
>>>> The computer needs to adapt to the user, not the user to the computer.
>>>
>>> In that case, all web pages should be HTML 2.0 *ONLY*.  Forego the
>>> Javascript, DOM, and other extensions.
>>
>> If that is what it takes to sell products, then yes.  Save the fancy
>> crap for your personal web page.
> 
> If the calendar on the wall said 1996, then HTML 2.0 would be fine.
> 
> But the web is no longer just simple static presentations with
> a submittable form.

If that is enough to bring the customer in and sell him your product,
what else is necessary?

> 
> Some very advanced stuff is put on the web. For business.

Why?  Because someone outside your business said "You just gotta do this!"

> 
> Google is selling browser based word processing. Their chances
> of succeeding with that using pure HTML 2.0 would be big fat
> zero.

Aand you are assuming here (as Google hopes people will) that his
is, in fact, a good idea.  As I said, as near as I can tell Google's
main product is snake oil.  Sadly, a lot of people are buying it
just like they used to flock to Dr. Good's Traveling Medicine Show.
Just because Goole said so doesn't make it a good thing for your
business. I would prefer to see the corresponence and data that
my business relied on to remain under my control.

bill

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