[Info-vax] IE8 got me too :-( Sorry Jeff.

[Bill Gunshannon]

In article <4b5515bf$0$278$14726298 at news.sunsite.dk>,
	Arne Vajhøj <arne at vajhoej.dk> writes:
> On 18-01-2010 12:39, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> In article<paul.nospam-8C9421.17313618012010 at pbook.sture.ch>,
>> 	Paul Sture<paul.nospam at sture.ch>  writes:
>>> In article<00A97BA5.6622A9D4 at SendSpamHere.ORG>,
>>>   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article<7rj6oqFut2U2 at mid.individual.net>, billg999 at cs.uofs.edu (Bill
>>>> Gunshannon) writes:
>>>>> In article<0101e235$0$27816$c3e8da3 at news.astraweb.com>,
>>>>> 	JF Mezei<jfmezei.spamnot at vaxination.ca>  writes:
>>>>>> Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The companies that are pushing the web envelope are doing
>>>>>>> pretty good business wise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Microsoft did not push the web envelope. It purposefully made its
>>>>>> products so that those not using IE would be "punished "and unable to
>>>>>> access web sites.
>>>>>
>>>>> Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by
>>>>> stupidity.  I have seen web pages that used these same concepts to
>>>>> create web pages that not only can not be viewed with IE but go so
>>>>> far as to display a page telling the viewer that they can not use
>>>>> IE to view the page.  Most swords cut both ways.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Google didn't set out to prevent certain users from using its sites, it
>>>>>> set out to add functionality (such as AJAX for the maps).
>>>>>
>>>>> As I said, I have yet to understand what Googles business is other than
>>>>> selling snake oil.
>>>>
>>>> It's a decent business model; especially, since they can market to lots of
>>>> squeaky snakes.
>>>
>>> Hehe. If Unix is snake oil, there's a large market out there :-)
>>
>> Who said Unix was snake oil?  I said Google was selling snake oil and
>> they are hardly a Unix shop.
> 
> Depends on whether you consider Linux to be a Unix.
> 
> If not then true.

Linus stated from the beginning that it wasn't and went to great effort
to prove it.  I certainly agree with him.  Now, if you are looking for
Unix-like snake oil, that's another matter and describes Linux to a "T".

> 
>>> (A decade or more ago I couldn't imagine I'd ever say that)
>>
>> The "Unix is snake oil" claim ranks right up there with the Byte
>> Magazine "Unix is Dead" headline.
> 
> But again assuming that Linux is not Unix then the Unix market
> the last 5 years have been developing rather similar to the
> VMS market: down.

Depends on what part you look at.  Last I heard AIX was still doing
OK.  And I think they may be the last of the real Unix's actually
being marketed and sold.  As I stateed earlier, the BSD's don't seem
to be interested and get about as much marketing as VMS and we all
know what the result of that is.

bill

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