[Info-vax] : Welcome to lockdown - HP limiting access to patches

[Bill Gunshannon]

In article <00AA5D36.C5D1EDBB at sendspamhere.org>,
	VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG writes:
> In article <8j7rg5Fs9sU1 at mid.individual.net>, billg999 at cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:
>>In article <00AA5C9D.33075936 at sendspamhere.org>,
>>	VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG writes:
>>> In article <4ccdbae4$0$19542$c3e8da3$2e0018d8 at news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot at vaxination.ca> writes:
>>>>Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The only major user of VMS with any ties to the DOD that I am currently
>>>>> aware of is the VA. 
>>>>
>>>>Doesn't NORAD still use VMS ?
>>>>
>>>>And there are those radar planes which I assume will continue to use VMS
>>>>until they are retire or fully refitted.
>>> 
>>> CASS?
>>
>>I assume you mean the USPS system.
>>
>>1.  Defintely not DOD.
>>2.  Not even GOV any more (and hasn't been for decades!)
>>3.  I could find no mention that it was still being done on VMS and I
>>    know when I interviewed with them 20 years ago they were looking
>>    for Unix people, not VMS.
> 
> I didn't know the USPS had a system called CASS too.  I was referring to
> the US Navy's CASS.

OK, interesting.  I am surprised I never hearda bout that back in my
Martin Marietta days.  Anyway.......


VAX/VMS 6.2

Currently being redisigned to eliminate the "mainframe" components.
Some has already been moved to Windows but remains "functionaly 
compatable with the VAX/VMS version."

No, I don't think that makes them "mainstream" with the DOD.

As i have already said, there are definitely a number of legacy VMS
systems in DOD (mostly seem to be VAX) but they are either being
replaced by non-VMS systems in their next iteration or they are of
such limited use they just plod along as they are (like the simulation
system managed out of Moffit Field with additinal systems in at least
two other military installations I am awarte of.)  It is a pretty
safe bet that HP is not providing OS Support for anything that old
and even less likely that any contracting office would approve the
funding to buy it.
 
bill

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