[Info-vax] VMS on remote desktops

[Richard B. Gilbert]

On 11/2/2010 5:19 AM, H Vlems wrote:
> On 1 nov, 20:40, "FredK"<fred.nos... at dec.com>  wrote:
>> There has been talk (here) about how VMS is used in the wild by the
>> "developer" and small user community that c.o.v. represents fairly well.
>> And how we don't listen.  I took it to heart.
>>
>> For years, as needed (and not often) - I run DECwindows applications to a PC
>> X11 emulator.  I telnet to VMS from my PC.  But for the most part - I still
>> use DECwindows with local graphics for VMS development - after all I am a
>> VMS engineer :-).
>>
>> PC emulators (or at least the one I use) seems to pretty much do what I want
>> when I need to.  But something that I don't do - and many of you do - is to
>> use other X11 clients - in particular Linux desktops (and others - OS/X,
>> UNIX...) to do your work on VMS.
>>
>> So, I have set myself a modest goal to look at providing a more seamless
>> integration of the remote desktop (Linux PC, thin client, etc) for the VMS
>> developer and user - with input from the community and without blindly
>> making my own assumptions about useage.  From a "cookbook" to changes to the
>> DECwindows code, setup, or documentation, or more.  We'll see where it goes.
>>
>> So.  If you have the desire, time and knowledge - on say what it took to
>> setup your Mac, or your Linux PC, or other X11 client.  The more detailed
>> the better.  Not just "I used xmodmap to hack the keycodes" - but the
>> specifics.  What fonts were missing?  Motif errors?  How did you end up
>> solving the problems?  What were the tradeoffs you had to live with?  What
>> would have helped?  What changes would help now and in the future?
>>
>> Note that from my perspective Alpha and Integrity is my target as opposed to
>> VAX.  The "new" desktop as opposed to the "old" (but I am interested in
>> understanding how many people don't use CDE and why).  "Recent" versions of
>> DECwindows.  Types of usage - exporting VMS applications or the VMS desktop.
>> Mixing native remote desktop applications (Linux/UNIX/etc) and VMS
>> applications.  Keyboard issues.  Font issues.  Locale issues (and non-US
>> country issues).  Setup issues.  Security issues.  Even testing issues :-)
>>
>> I have lots of information and ideas of my own...  but here's your chance.
>> All I do ask is that it doesn't become an excuse for bashing and long
>> standing rants.  Nor am I suggesting anything leading to some new focus on a
>> VMS desktop or graphics... Nor should it be taken the other way - every
>> system we ship today has integrated 2D graphics - which are not going away.
>> This is specific to integration with remote desktops.
>
> I run Reflection X on a Windows XP system and use XDMCP to select the
> desired target host.
> Occasionally I telnet to the remote host and use CREATE/TERM/PERM
> (having Reflection X running as the X server on the pc).
> Annoying things:
> - double width /double height lines are displayed as two identical
> lines
> - keys on the numeric keyboard are improperly mapped
> - Connections with VAX DECwindows produce a font not found error (I
> know, out of scope)
> Hans

Have you mentioned this problem to the vendor?  I believe the vendor was 
Attachmate.  Attachmate may have been acquired. . . .