[Info-vax] tcpip

[John Wallace]

On Nov 2, 8:45 am, Michael Kraemer <M.Krae... at gsi.de> wrote:
> smithfarm schrieb:
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>
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> > On 11/01/2010 07:12 PM, Edwin Rhodes wrote:
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> >> hi installing vms 7.3 vax, any ideas how to install and configure TCP/IP
> >> so i can get telnet up and running? any tutorials etc would be great,
> >> thanks ed
>
> > Hello Ed:
>
> > Phil Wherry's instructions (URL is in your other thread) include a
> > section on installing and configuring TCPIP. I suggest you follow those
> > instructions.
>
> > Once you install TCPIP, you have to configure it using the command
> > someone else already wrote here.
>
> > It's not difficult.
>
> Well, compared to a Unix system (including DEC's)
> it *is* difficult and cumbersome.
> You'd have to load those UCX PAKs before, for example.
> And have some extra fun on the VS4000 (which is what
> the OP uses) with that braindead  MIN_INTSTKPAGES=12
> to be included in sys$system:modparams.dat.
> And another "autogen" run, which seems to be the
> equivalent of Unix kernel builds of yore.
> You wouldn't think this is the 21st century,
> but the label on the VAX VMS CD says "July 2002" ...

"You'd have to load those UCX PAKs before, for example"

Sorry but the hoops you now have to jump through to licence, activate,
etc a retail (or OEM) Windows installation make entering PAKs (which
can trivially be scripted) look, er, trivial. Of course hassles like
that don't affect corporate customers or warez customers, just Honest
Joe Public (me). (I'm assuming it's no better in Vista or Win7 than it
was with XP).

"And another "autogen" run, which seems to be the equivalent of Unix
kernel builds of yore. "

I've rebuilt UNIX kernels on a regular, frequent basis since DEC OSF
V1.x and since Red Hat 4.x. AUTOGEN is a delight in comparison - it's
not needed very often, when you do need it the changes are usually
reasonably simple and localised, it doesn't take long to run, and if
you know a bit about VMS you can undo your changes quite quickly if
all is not well.

OK a modern UNIX doesn't need you to rebuild your kernel very often
either unless there's a specific need (building in the VMware tools,
for example?!), but then modern VMS doesn't *need* AUTOGENing very
often either, especially once the system is run in and stable.