[Info-vax] VMS on remote desktops

[JohnF]

VAXman- wrote:
> "FredK" <fred.nospam at dec.com> writes:
>> <VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG> wrote
>>>  "FredK" <fred.nospam at dec.com> writes:
>>>
>>> I use mosy my Linux laptop and my Mac.  I've done plenty
>>> with 'xmodmap' for the keycode hacks.  I've worked around
>>> most of the problems using the font server.  I access the
>>> VMS system(s) with 'ssh -X' but I've also toyed with using
>>> 'xnest'.
>>>
>>> As for fonts, the double-high/double-wide terminal fonts
>>> always cause issue within 'xterm'.  I export $CREATE/TERMINAL
>>> for doing debugging and, without the font server, some of
>>> the line drawing stuff and, I believe, the reverse video
>>> use in the character-cell debugger cause issue.   I don't
>>> really use any of the other GUI toys that came with CDE.
>>> A functional terminal is all I ask for -- and which I have
>>> now with the font server.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks.  I suspect a ot of VMS people (like UNIX folks) are
>> still mostly command line types.  Care to share your xmodmap
>> tricks?  Do you need to switch back and forth between settings
>> to use VMS-style vs UNIX/Mac style input?
> 
> No.  I have not problem with need to switch back and forth.
> I have Linux on a 17" Toshiba laptop (as one example) that
> has a full alternate keypad.  Since the keypak is WEENDOZE
> biased already, its usefulness in Linux does not mean all
> that much to me.  However, it does make VMS editing easier
> as I can approximate things like the EDT keypad.  Of course,
> it's crippled in that it has the stupidly large [+] key
> where DEC keyboards had [,] and [-] keys.
> 
> !!!!!! [+] = [,]    CTRL-[+] = [-]
> keycode 86 = 0xffac            0xffad
> !!
> keycode 82 = 0xff94
> keycode 63 = 0xff93
> keycode 106 = 0xff92
> keycode 77 = 0xff91
> !!
> pointer = 3 2 1 4 5 6 7
> 
> The pointer is leftie mapping for me.  Others may choose
> not to do this if they are no in their "right mind."
> 
> On the Mac, I use the Mac full keyboard which has an alternate
> keypad that looks like the DEC LK style keyboard's alternate
> keypad.  I don't need any .Xmodmap for that.  I'm using iTerm
> when I'm not launching a DECterminal.  There's a profile section
> where I have defined the more typical key escape sequences.
> On the Mac, the .Xmodmap file is:
> 
> keycode 79 = 0xff91
> keycode 89 = 0xff92
> keycode 83 = 0xff93
> keycode 75 = 0xff94
> keycode 77 = 0xffac

Don't know if this is of any use at all -- I run the bash
shell script
 http://www.forkosh.com/vt100.sh
from X on my linux box and then telnet from that terminal
window into vaxstations.  All the edt gold keys, etc, seem
to work fine, with your same big [+] key problem, of course.
And I doubt double-wide/high chars would display correctly,
but haven't tried.  The script's authors are commented at
the top of the file, as far as I know. My only change was
to flip <key>Right and <key>Left, which apparently needed
flipping. (I also changed colors from green-on-black to
white-on-black, font size from 8x13 to 9x15, and maybe a
few other cosmetic-only changes I don't recall.)
-- 
John Forkosh  ( mailto:  j at f.com  where j=john and f=forkosh )