[Info-vax] : Welcome to lockdown - HP limiting access to patches

[Main, Kerry]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com [mailto:info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com]
> On Behalf Of Bill Gunshannon
> Sent: November-03-10 11:22 AM
> To: info-vax at rbnsn.com
> Subject: Re: [Info-vax] : Welcome to lockdown - HP limiting access to patches
> 
> In article <a46ae938-67fb-45bf-b15f-
> d5ff7929072f at j25g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
> 	seasoned_geek <roland at logikalsolutions.com> writes:
> > On Oct 31, 10:13 am, billg... at cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
> >> In article <acd0062a-6c4e-482c-8fc9-
> 51d9fb2dd... at l20g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> >>         seasoned_geek <rol... at logikalsolutions.com> writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Oct 23, 4:58 pm, Michael Kraemer <M.Krae... at gsi.de> wrote:
> >> >> seasoned_geek schrieb:
> >>
> >> >> > On Oct 19, 10:27 am, billg... at cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
> >>
> >> >> >>>VMS may be gone from mainstream military operations,
> >>
> >> >> >>I have been associated with the military since 1968. I have been
> doing
> >> >> >>military IT since 1979. VMS was never in "mainstream military
> operations".
> >>
> >> >> > Actually, it was, and still is about as mainstream as it gets.
> >>
> >> >> >http://www.devbistro.com/jobs/120716
> >>
> >> >> VAX/VMS and VAX basic being "mainstream"?
> >> >> I think not even JF would agree here.
> >> > Payroll is as mainstream as it gets.
> >>
> >> You obviously missed the poet that pointed out that this is a Naval
> >> Reserve job and not real Navy.  And in any case, all military pay is
> >> done by DFAS in Indianapolis and it definitely is not being done on
> >> VMS.
> >>
> >> The only major user of VMS with any ties to the DOD that I am currently
> >> aware of is the VA.  And with the Medical Sector rapidly abandoning VMS,
> >> how long do you think it will be before the VA follows suit.  And, let
> >> me add that at this point in time the VA is in the process of a major
> >> enterprise re-engineering.  Is there anyone here who does not know
> what
> >> that most likely means as far as architecture of choice?
> >>
> >
> https://rockwellcollins.taleo.net/careersection/10000/jobdetail.ftl?job=4622
> 18&src=JB-11060
> 
> What's your point?
> 
> VAX/VMS is mentioned at the end, after Windows XP and other MS
> products.
> Kinda looks like boilerplate, doesn't it?  Or do you really think they
> are doing current development on VAX/VMS?
> 
mmm... Bill, you do understand that many Customers still refer to OpenVMS
systems as their VAX or VAX VMS systems even though they have been running 
Alpha or Integrity systems for years - right?

This is especially true when dealing with end user or non IT groups like HR.

> And, you must have missed the original thread.  That's a Rockwell/Collins
> job, not DOD.  So, are we now trying to say that HP has a guaranteed
> commitment to Rockwell to continue support for VAX/VMS?  And while it
> mentions "aircraft", ti doesn't say they are military.
> 

Ok, perhaps I missed it, but since when does Rockwell compete with Boeing
for commercial aircraft?

> bill
> 
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