[Info-vax] Not all HP jobs have gone to India!

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In article <iblti4$5iq$1 at Iltempo.Update.UU.SE>, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> writes:
>On 2010-11-12 14:41, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>> In article<4cdcb218$0$2281$c3e8da3$c8b7d2e6 at news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei<jfmezei.spamnot at vaxination.ca>  writes:
>>> VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>>>
>>> Your 100mbops access would cost half in France, and even less in Hong
>>> Kong or South Korea.
>>
>> Got figures?  Competition is what drove the prices down.  I doubt that
>> you'd get a /29 static subnet and 100mbps for $100/month in France, HK
>> or South Korea.  If it is true, it is probably gov't subsidized.  The
>> demoncRATS have been too busy subsidizing their banker buddies here to
>> give a shit about subsidizing my internet connectivity!
>
>Sorry, but you don't know squat about the world outside the US, it would 
>appear.

You've traveled so extensively?  And through the US?  NOT!  I bet you 
haven't ventured out of Scandanavia.



>The telco and internet market in the US is broken, but people inside 
>can't even see that. Since they don't have much to compare to, and want 
>to find out even less.

The telco and internet market in the US has to cover a SIGNIFICANTLY
LARGER area than in most other countries.  According to Arne's links,
you should be shitting on Switzerland. 
                                               
                 Subscribers  Average   Price/month
Rank  Nation     per           Speed    for 1 mbps  Overall Score    
                 Household     (mbps)   (USD PPP)

13 Switzerland     0.68          2.3     21.71           10.40
14 Australia       0.50          1.7      2.39           10.23
15 Austria         0.42          7.3      5.99           10.08
16 Portugal        0.42          8.1     10.99            9.92
17 United Kingdom  0.50          2.6     11.02            9.92
18 Germany         0.38          6.0      5.20            9.81
19 Italy           0.38          4.2      3.36            9.78
20 Luxembourg      0.51          3.1     18.48            9.71
21 Spain           0.44          1.2     12.46            9.48
22 New Zealand     0.36          2.3      9.20            9.26
23 Ireland         0.37          2.2     13.82            9.14
24 Poland          0.20          7.5     13.00            8.69
25 Czech Republic  0.27          1.6     24.10            8.11
26 Hungary         0.30          3.0     44.24            7.53
27 Greece          0.12          1.0     33.19            6.93
28 Slovak Republic 0.16          2.8     50.15            6.58
29 Mexico          0.16          1.1     60.01            6.00
30 Turkey          0.17          2.0    115.76            3.81



>In Sweden, 100 Mb/s (both down and up) will cost you SEK 249 /month, and 
>it is not subsidized by anyone. It's just a result of tough competition, 

And that's how much in US$?

Mine is 100mbps @ $100/month or 1mbps @ $1/month  which is SIGNIFICANTLY
cheaper than the Arne's chart's 1mbps @ $3.33/month.

>and good regulations. That translates to less than $40. (And actually, 
>that was just looking at the first ISP that popped into my mind: 
>Bredbandsbolaget, if I start hunting around, I might be able to find it 
>even cheaper.)
>
>And don't even get me started on mobile phones, or broadband access 
>through the mobile phone...

I love my Sprint EVDO.  I traveled 2 summers ago across Pennsylvania (a
400 mile trek from my door) through 6 mountain tunnels averaging 1 mile
and listening to 128K streaming radio and I never missed a beat.  That
I get for $60/month!  Worth it for the convenience of ubiquitous access.
Most places here in the US now have free internet access (even the cable
cos have put up wireless access and, if you have an account, you get the
wireless access).  When traveling Europe, I have to pay about $24/day to
have internet access.  That's a deal???  NOT!  $24/day * 30days/month is
$720/month... that my good man is excessive!



>Don't just blindly buy the "US is best always". Do some fact finding. It 
>might help you in the long run...

And I didn't say that.  I merely pointed out that JF's perpetuation that
US stands for Ultimate Satan is pure hatred.  He's complained to me on
both the phone and private email about the fights he's having with the
Canadian Telecom business.  When you get your head out of your ass and
your ass out of .SE, you might see the world differently than what has
been portrayed on your "squak box".  Now, I need to go back to clean-
ing my 2.5 guns per family member, thumping my bible and trying to get
the rusted ol' pickup truck and front lawn ornament started, and break
apart some old shipping pallets so that I can build a fire to cook up
the evening victuals I catch in the squirrel traps today. 

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