[Info-vax] OpenVMS.org down

[Paul Sture]

In article <4e3be2f1$0$23865$e4fe514c at news2.news.xs4all.nl>,
 MG <marcogbNO at SPAMxs4all.nl> wrote:

> On 5-8-2011 13:51, Paul Sture wrote:
> > I my memory serves correctly the site started out running Tru64 on an
> > Alpha.  Unfortunately switching to Rdb licenses aren't cheap.
> 
> Isn't OpenVMS.org a non-profit organization?  I don't know how that
> would work, exactly, but wouldn't that entitle it for non-commercial
> licensing?  (Again, I don't know for sure, I haven't read any of the
> Oracle licenses or end-usage agreements recently...)

Well, OpenVMS.org does host adverts for third parties. It may be  
non-profit, but that doesn't make it non-commercial.

And the development license is quite clear that you have to apply for a 
production license as soon as you use it for any kind of internal data 
processing:

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/rdb/downloads/othersoft-087176
.html

and click on "OTN License Agreement"

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LICENSE RIGHTS 
We grant you a nonexclusive, nontransferable limited license to use the 
programs only for the purpose of developing, testing, prototyping and 
demonstrating your application, and not for any other purpose. If you 
use the application you develop under this license for any internal data 
processing or for any commercial or production purposes, or you want to 
use the programs for any purpose other than as permitted under this 
agreement, you must obtain a production release version of the program 
by contacting us or an Oracle reseller to obtain the appropriate 
license. You acknowledge that we may not produce a production release 
version of the program and any development efforts undertaken by you are 
at your own risk. We may audit your use of the programs. Program 
documentation, if available, may accessed online at 
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/indexes/documentation/index.html. 
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> 
> > Sidenote on MySQL: Apple have dropped MySQL from the server version of
> > their latest release of OS X in favour of PostgreSQL.  I think the
> > decision was probably to do with licensing and Oracle getting MySQL
> > along with the rest of Sun.
> 
> That's not a bad decision, of Apple (seeing what Oracle deems normal).
> 
> The only problem, from a VMS perspective:  I don't think there are
> modern, working/stable, ports of PostgreSQL for VMS at the moment.

I have occasionally looked for a VMS port over the last few years, but 
have only come across references to work in progress, not anything ready 
to be released back into the main source tree.

-- 
Paul Sture