[Info-vax] DEC Multia (UDB) issues

Rich Jordan jordan at ccs4vms.com
Fri Aug 26 10:19:14 EDT 2011


On Aug 26, 2:50 am, Hans Vlems <hvl... at freenet.de> wrote:
> On Aug 24, 7:12 am, <grei... at o2.co.uk> wrote:
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> > Hi all,
> >     I have a Multia which I've never run (lack of time).
> > I also have a MicroVax II and a Vaxstation 3100/30 - out of interest, how
> > does a Multia compare to
> > these in performance?
>
> > Also, what would people reccomend as a cheap low-end Alpha if the Multia is
> > essentially unuseable?
>
> > Regards, Graham
>
> > "Bob Koehler" <koeh... at eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org> wrote in message
>
> >news:qWWvDjnWgfe+ at eisner.encompasserve.org...
>
> > > In article
> > > <5e6282a5-3685-438d-8412-614a86dcc... at v2g2000vba.googlegroups.com>, John
> > > Wallace <johnwalla... at yahoo.co.uk> writes:
> > >> On Aug 22, 10:35=A0pm, MG <marcog... at SPAMxs4all.nl> wrote:
> > >>> I have mostly I64 systems running. =A0I don't know where to begin with
> > >>> that. =A0Is it even possible? =A0(I haven't ever looked into that
> > >>> either.=
>
> > >> Obviously VMS isn't supported on Multia anyway. In an Alpha-centric
> > >> setup, clustering the Multia might have been worth some thought, but
> > >> booting an old Multia-compatible Alpha VMS version as a satellite in
> > >> an IA64-centric setup (ie more recent VMS) probably isn't a bright
> > >> idea at all (even if it stood much chance of working).
>
> > >   IIRC, the only cross-architecture booting that isn't supported is
> > >   VAX - IA64.  Anything else should be a matter of having disk space
> > >   and using cluster_config.com.
>
> > >   As far as Multia, the issue here is whether the boot ROM and unsupported
> > >   drivers can handle boot over the NIC using MOP or IP.  (I'm assuming
> > >   Multia can cluster over the NIC via those drivers.)- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
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> A DS10 would be a fair choice, though the system is limited in to 2 GB
> main memory and just
> three internal disks. It has one EV6 cpu that runs at 466 MHz. I don't
> know whether faster cpu's
> are supported. A DS10 is not noisy and is easy on the electricity
> bill. But a DS10 still has some value.
> Older Alpha's, like the AlphaServer models 800 and 1200 run slower
> (EV5 cpu(s) at 333, 400 and 500 MHz).
> You might get these cheap or for free.
> Two weeks ago I was given a DS10 and a DS20E with 4 GB, 5 internal
> disks and two EV67 667 MHz cpu's. Now that's a
> real hobbyist system! The downsize is that it runs fairly hot (so runs
> up quite an electricity bill).
> Hans

DS10s also came with 600MHz CPUs.  I'm still waiting to find a free or
very cheap one to replace my PWS600au; all I've got now are DS10Ls at
466MHz (they also were available with 600MHz).

Actually holding out for a free/cheap DS15 to be truly happy ;)



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