[Info-vax] HP stopping VMS paper documentation ?

[Bob Koehler]

In article <jbjcqt$44k$2 at online.de>, helbig at astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---undress to reply) writes:
> In article <Q8w1Cf3Z9KFv at eisner.encompasserve.org>,
> koehler at eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes: 
> 
>> > Seriously, "socialism", when not used for propaganda, generally refers 
>> > to government ownership of "big" things.  That is the exception in the 
>> > US and the rule in many other countries.
>> 
>>    Socialism means the government owns things, operates things, and 
>>    provides things, under the excuse that would be better for society.
> 
> More precisely, it also owns such things which are elsewhere run at a
> profit.  Government-owned things in the US are usually things which
> wouldn't make a profit if they were privatized. 

   You seem to reject the notion that there can be socialist programs
   in a non-socialist government.  A purely socialist government would
   own everything.  But what would you call programs built along
   socialist principles in an otherwize non-socialist government?