[Info-vax] What is VMS?

[seasoned_geek]

On Dec 20, 2:33 am, John Wallace <johnwalla... at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 19, 10:48 pm, seasoned_geek <rol... at logikalsolutions.com>
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> > On Dec 18, 8:51 am, Skip Morris <mor... at skip.net> wrote:
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> > > On Dec 17, 9:47 pm, seasoned_geek <rol... at logikalsolutions.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Dec 11, 6:42 pm, Connor Cooper <rockyc... at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > What is VMS? What is it good for? How come it has the prefix 'Open',
> > > > > yet it is not open source? what are some good guides for using it? I
> > > > > have already registered for a hobbyist VAX license, but I am not sure
> > > > > how I should install it on SIMH. Anyone have anything good to say?
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> > > > If you are serious about learning how to develop software and use the
> > > > various utilities you should obtain a copy of "The Minimum You Need to
> > > > Know to Be an OpenVMS Application Developer".  Of course, I'm biased,
> > > > I wrote it.  You can find it at Barnes & Nobel.
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> > > As a long-time VMS geek, I just looked that book up to buy a copy on
> > > general principals.
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> > > However... the price is $150.  Way too much for casual interest.
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> > > /Skip
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> > Um....the list price for a brand new printed version is $90 US.
> > Please provide a link where you found someone screwing the public for
> > $150.
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> > In a couple of months there might be an EPUB version available.  I
> > have an individual working on it now.  All attempts made by all
> > service providers used by Sony failed in the past, but, I put an
> > actual U.S. citizen on it, so, should achieve better results.
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> An internet search for this book title plus the word "buy" using a
> well known search engine finds two of the first three results are from
> the US and UK websites of a well known store which I believe isn't one
> of your favourites but is for whatever reason widely used by the
> public. The UK website has two suppliers at ~£340 used (both seemingly
> from US suppliers) and the US store has one supplier at ~$140 new.
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> The other top 3 result is a reference to the book, in the Wikipedia
> article on VMS. The article might well be a decent starting point for
> Connor's original enquiry about "What is VMS?".

Nobody with the tiniest shred of ethics would even consider doing
business with Amazon.com, and now you have a shining example as to
why.  It would be interesting to see what happens if someone actually
was dim witted enough to order from Amazon.com since I would never
fill such an order.

using "The Minimum You Need to Know to Be an OpenVMS Application
Developer" buy

with ask.com
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-minimum-you-need-to-know-to-be-an-openvms-application-developer-roland-hughes/1007784093

with google
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-minimum-you-need-to-know-to-be-an-openvms-application-developer-roland-hughes/1007784093
and it actually shows the $90 price in the little snippet

Of course, in the UK one would search Alibris
http://www.alibris.co.uk/booksearch?keyword=the+Minimum+You+Need+to+Know+to+Be+an+OpenVMS+Application+Developer&mtype=B&hs.x=0&hs.y=0

If you happen to live in a country where BN.COM doesn't have stores,
odds are your order will be filled via Alibris, which uses a
consolidating shipping service.