[Info-vax] Just how much is 30, 000 pounds in US dollars? Basic programmers

[George Cook]

In article <e1e00b54-1e9b-4224-8d2f-1fb1cc9a9b94 at o10g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>, seasoned_geek <roland at logikalsolutions.com> writes:
> On Feb 6, 7:51=A0pm, c... at wvnvms.wvnet.edu (George Cook) wrote:
>> In article <3f270075-45cc-4f2d-9e38-a77f1e8ac... at z20g2000yqe.googlegroups=
> .com>, seasoned_geek <rol... at logikalsolutions.com> writes:
>>
>> > On Feb 1, 4:02=3DA0pm, hel... at astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig-=
> --
>> > undress to reply) wrote:
>> >> Any country where a physician can refuse to accept a patient is not
>> >> civilised. =3DA0
>>
>> > A physician is not allowed. =A0They are required to treat the patient i=
> n
>> > front of them or lose their license. =A0This is why there is such a min=
> e
>> > field of administrators and LPNs between the patient and the
>> > physician, re-directing them to county.
>>
>> What country are you referring to? =A0In general, in the US,
>> hospitals and individual docters can turn away anyone unless
>> it is an emergency, although public hospitals usually treat
>> anyone regardless of ability to pay. =A0The main reason why some
>> emergency rooms are so crowded is that people who can only afford
>> "free" care go there. =A0In general, emergency departments (at
>> least non-private ones) treat anyone seeking care whether or not
>> it is an emergency, however, even public Level 1 trauma centers
>> (due to being over capacity) sometime turn away ambulances unless
>> it is a true Level 1 emergency (i.e., the patient will most likely
>> die before reaching the next available ER).
>>
>> George Cook
> 
> In the U.S., a DOCTOR is not allowed to refuse treatment and maintain
> their license.  The nurse and admin people in the doctor's office are
> the ones turning patients away.  Again, at a Level 1 trauma center,
> the admin staff are the ones turning patients away, not a DOCTOR.
> It's part of the licensing and part of the modern hippocratic oath

I'm sorry, but you are wrong.  The North won the war and ended
slavery.  Unless it is an emergency, a doctor doesn't have to do
anything.  It is the head of the ER (a doctor) who declares closure
to new patients.  In triage situations, doctors (in person) often
refuse to treat patients who are less likely to survive even if
there is a chance they might survive.  Ethical (as opposed to
ones who will do anything for the right price) cosmetic surgeons
regularly turn patients away if they believe the patients want it
for the wrong reasons or that they have unreasonable expectations.
IMO, the surgeon who did Joan Rivers should lose his license for
malpractice; just because someone wants to become hideously
disfigured doesn't mean a doctor is required to do it.  The
unethical fertility doctor who treated the Octomom should have
lost his license (a prison sentence would not have been too
harsh IMO).

You seem to think that by simply walking up to the first doctor
you meet on the street, that he is required to treat whatever
ills you (e.g. bad cold, ingrown toenail, cataracts, hangover,
baldness, hay fever, high blood presssure, ...).  I suppose you
think if you ambush a doctor as he is entering/leaving his office
(thereby getting the nurses and admins out of the way), that he
is therefore forced to accept you as a patient?  You couldn't
be more wrong.

A personal example:  if I had asked the doctor who was giving me
a second opinion on my back to take over my care, he would have
had every right to tell me he was not accepting new patients.
You actually think otherwise?

Please don't tell me you believe anything shown on fictional TV
dramas?  Unless you have something intelligent to say, this will
be my last reply.  I apologize to the group if I have fallen
victim to a troll.


George Cook