[Info-vax] VMS84*_UPDATE

[Jan-Erik Soderholm]

VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote 2011-02-25 14:21:
> In article<ik87eh$1tp$1 at news.albasani.net>, Jan-Erik Soderholm<jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com>  writes:
>> Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote 2011-02-25 13:19:
>>> In article<ik84fr$t97$1 at news.albasani.net>, Jan-Erik Soderholm<jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com>   writes:
>>>> Is it a general problem with translated images or something
>>>> specific with your translated images ?
>>>
>>> Don't know. I have it, it is the only one, it had performance problems
>>> with V8.3-1H1 (don't know if I had the problems with 8.3 before), later
>>> an ECO fixed it (I should check if I had the VMS831H1I_IA64_TIE-V0100
>>> installed, as the name let me believe, it is for exactly this problem,
>>> but currently I don't remember having seen this ECO before - so far I
>>> guessed it was a VMS831H1I_SYS or a VMS831H1I_UPDATE or ...), and 8.4
>>> reintroduced the performance problem again (while on TUD it was claimed,
>>> that "8.4 is faster than 8.3" - where I said, sorry, no, not for me ;-).
>>>
>>> So, again, is this single observation (of me) the only hint, or has here
>>> anyone done anything (useful) with AEST and had the same observation?
>>> As there is no TIE ECO for 8.4, I think, my problem is very uncommon...
>>>
>>
>> I think this in interesting with regard to the general discussion around
>> the "low quality" of the 8.4 release. I guess that in due time we will
>> be able to better say if 8.4 was that significaly different then any
>> other VMS release. So far I remember one larger bug reported by Guy
>> Peleg. I'm not fully convinced that the macro/debug bugs reported
>> by VAXman is that a show-stopper for the VMS userbase at large.
>
> And the broken ssh tunneling wasn't a show-stopper either? (Fixed by TCPIP
> Services patch).  I suppose you WEENIES on WEENDOZE are happy if something
> just barely functions -- not me.
>
> And bugs such as the macro/debug bug are showstoppers for people providing
> products *FOR* VMS.  I suppose you just use your VMS systems to edit your
> LOGIN.COM?  Some people do a bit more with theirs. ;)
>
> I aware of that bug that Guy Peleg discovered too.  I'm not certain if its
> fix has seen the light of day or the patch list yet.
>
> Just because you don't feel any pain doesn't mean that others don't need a
> strong dose of painkiller.
>

OK, play dumb if you feel better that way.
I'm only saying that your view doesn't match with
the general view I've got outside c.o.v.