[Info-vax] Buying disk for a DS10

[Rich Jordan]

On Feb 25, 12:47 pm, tadamsmar <tadams... at yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Feb 25, 11:58 am, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber... at comcast.net>
> wrote:
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> > On 2/24/2011 9:51 PM, Arne Vajh j wrote:
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> > > On 24-02-2011 11:26, tadamsmar wrote:
> > >> Our database machine is running out of space.
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> > >> I want to buy new disks for a DS10, not refurbs.
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> > >> NEWEGG lists some Ultra320 80 pin drives. Will those work?
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> > >> The DS10 came drives specified as Ultra3 (U160) SCSI on the label.
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> > >> I wonder if I can get new drives with the right interface.
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> > >> These are non-shadowed drives, so I want reliable drives.
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> > > If it were a hobbyist machine then Ebay was obvious, but
> > > for work then why not call IslandCo, explain what you have
> > > and buy something there?
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> > > Arne
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> > Even hobbyists can buy from Island Computer!  The advantages are many!
> > 1. You can be sure that you are getting the right thing.
> > 2. You get prompt shipment.
> > 3. You get a warranty.
> > 4. If you have a problem you have a reasonable expectation of getting a
> > little help.
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> > Yes, it costs money but you get value for your money!- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
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> I will try Island.  I was looking other places because I found their
> inventory a little confusing.  For instance, is this a new drive or
> refurb? What's the interface?  How do I interface if it's not the same
> interface.
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> http://www.islandco.com/3r-a1656-aa-30gb-7200rpm-atapi-disk-alphaserv...
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> But, I guess I can ask them.
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> I want to buy new drives for this machine.
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> BTW I am trying to replace the an internal drive in a DS10.  The disk
> is a COMPAQ BB00921B91.  It computer is a ds10 466

9.1 GB 7200 RPM Pluggable Wide Ultra2 SCSI

So you do have a SCSI controller card.  The Islandco disk you point
out is an IDE disk; it would work, given the proper cable, with the
embedded controller on the DS10 MLB but it will be substantially
slower than the SCSI drive.

It would still help to know the model of the SCSI interface card.  If
the machine can't be brought down to check, look at the back panel
(some have a part number or label there), or else in VMS do:

$ ANALYZE/SYSTEM

SDA> CLUE CONFIG

and scroll through the slot options; you should see something like:

F000  CC PKA:  14 Symbios 895 ....  (I _think_ this is a KZPBA)

or

8800  FC  PKA:   17 Adaptec AIC-7899  ...  (these 2 lines are a KZPEA)
C900 F8   PKB:   17 Adaptec AIC-7899  ...

Report back what you see.

If you by chance have a faster card in there, might as well get a
drive that can use the speed.

If you get a drive with an 80 pin SCA connector, you will have to buy
a 68-80 pin adapter; get a name brand like Cables to Go and make sure
it isn't too tall to fit in the bay where the drive is going.

You could also look (at Islandco, et al) for original 68 pin internal
storage options like:

DS-RZ3FD-WA    36GB, 10KRPM Ultra3
DS-RZ3EF-WA    18GB, 10KRPM Ultra3