[Info-vax] vms base priority watch

[Richard B. Gilbert]

On 7/11/2011 12:48 PM, pcoviello at gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 11, 12:01 pm, "Richard B. Gilbert"<rgilber... at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>> On 7/11/2011 11:09 AM, pcovie... at gmail.com wrote:
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>>> On Jul 11, 10:43 am, "Richard B. Gilbert"<rgilber... at comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 7/11/2011 9:46 AM, Bob Koehler wrote:
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>>>>> In article<1f612927-5e98-44e0-91e2-d889916c4... at gh5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>, "pcovie... at gmail.com"<pcovie... at gmail.com>      writes:
>>>>>> ok well. I did ask a yes/no question! me bad!  yes I understand the
>>>>>> non-prived user would not do this but... we have given users the
>>>>>> rights to do this early in the morning to get their jobs completed,
>>>>>> when there are less users on the system.
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>>>>>       If the system is otherwize idle at that time, that should have no affect.
>>>>>       If only some users get to do this in the ealy hours, then it's worth while.
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>>>>>       VMS does not delay lowpriorityprocesses just to make them take
>>>>>       longer, it there are no higherpriorityprocesses doing anything.
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>>>> I can recall occasions during which a job was getting 99 percent of the
>>>> CPU at PriorityOne.  The "hunt and peck" typists never noticed it!
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>>> thanks everyone,  I know it isn't the best solution, but as I said I
>>> just started the job and need to pick and choose what comes first...
>>> thinking about this some more and doing some digging I thought
>>> accounting would tell you who might have issued a command?   after a
>>> year some things are still fuzzy, so haven't come up with anything
>>> yet, but I'm wondering as someone pointed out that what if they hit
>>> the time between the hour!  so it might be best to see if I can audit
>>> who issued the command and see what time?  any ideas?
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>> Accounting is not going to tell you who issued a command unless that
>> command created a process.  In Unix you can't blink without starting a
>> process or two.  Not so in VMS!
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>> Maybe you should back up a bit and define the problem you are trying to
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> opps thought that's what I did but maybe not.. looking for a way to
> see who set priority during the day and what time to make sure they
> are not abusing it outside the hours they are allowed too...
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> thanks
> Paul

I can't think of a way to determine who used privilege to override 
normal priority assignments.  I don't think it's a good idea to let 
users tinker with scheduling priorities.  If the work is not getting 
done in the time available, you can try throwing resources at it.
That only works if you HAVE the resources.

You might look at the programs being run!  Those who are not 
programmers, frequently fail to write GOOD code.  An optimizing compiler 
can be a big help but it's not a substitute for code that was well 
designed and written in the first place!