[Info-vax] Uptime for OpenVMS

[John Wallace]

On May 19, 6:22 pm, "Syltrem" <syltremz... at videotron.ca> wrote:
> "Johnny Billquist" <b... at softjar.se> wrote in message
>
> news:ir1ucl$8kj$1 at Iltempo.Update.UU.SE...
>
> > On 2011-05-18 18.08, Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
> >> On 5/18/2011 12:30 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> >>> On 2011-05-18 08.15, Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
> >>>> On 5/18/2011 10:44 AM, Bob Koehler wrote:
> >>>>> In article<GowAp.961$t41.... at newsfe25.ams2>, ChrisQ<m... at devnull.com>
> >>>>> writes:
>
> > It's just that you said "About the only time I reboot is following a power
> > outrage long enough to run down my UPS.", which don't match my experience
> > with XP, where you need to reboot every other week because of updates.
>
> Never install those updates unless you really need them. Just as you
> (presumably) do on VMS.
> If a patch is for a problem/situation that is not likely to occur, and is
> not mandatory in the sense that it may end up corrupting data or something,
> I never install any patches.
>
> Windows Update is turned off. Always. Sometimes installing those M$ patches
> will modify your system setup and it will start to behave differently
> without you knowing. Or other times they wil lcrash you system or break
> functionality. Windows patches are like that.
>
> Always test a patch and only install when you need it. Don`t let Windows do
> it for you.
>
> Simple things can change an XP (or any Windows version) behavior in
> unexpected ways.
> The other day, I switched my own acount from a non-privileged one to an
> Admin account (to get rights to do something without bothering with finding
> what exactly was wrong with securities in the registry), and when I switched
> it back to a non-privileges account, my PC goes into standby mode instead of
> just sitting idle when I don't use it.
> Stupid thing. I'll have to fix that when I have a minute.
>
> The other thing is that XP must be rebooted sometimes because it start to be
> unstable. Things just don't work as they should - I don't recall a
> particular event as an example right now. But sometimes just logging off and
> logging back in (no reboot) may cure the problem. VMS never does this.
>
> Ah! why did I read this thread and discuss Windows ? We should be speaking
> VMS here !
> Maybe I'm a bit angry because I must find a new home (read: OS) for my
> Oracle DB server, and Windows is the easiest to go to, but in time will
> create problems, certainly...
> Unfortunately I don't have much *nix experience, I'm trying the *nix route
> too for Oracle and I'm not finished yet, but I've already finished migrating
> my test db to Windows and it works ok...
>
> Syltrem

"... admin account ... now my PC goes into standby mode instead of
just sitting idle when I don't use it. Stupid thing. I'll have to fix
that when I have a minute."

Good luck. When I last looked into this behaviour, there was no
architected way of setting up power-management for a PC where there
was no logged-on user. And no simple non-architected way either,
though I suspect that in an environment where there is only one real
user on any given pc, that may not matter. Maybe it just 'remembers'
the settings from the last user who had the privilege to change them?
That was a number of years ago (three years? when my current desktop
PC arrived at work), things may have improved, given that the cost of
power has increased somewhat.