[Info-vax] Orphaned processes on OpenVMS

Johnny Billquist bqt at softjar.se
Fri May 27 13:04:36 EDT 2011


On 2011-05-27 09.55, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
> Paul Sture wrote 2011-05-27 18:42:
>> In article<irogrs$41t$1 at news.albasani.net>,
>> Jan-Erik Soderholm<jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Johnny Billquist wrote 2011-05-27 03:47:
>>>>
>>>> Hmm. Ok. So it does not actually allow I/O to unmounted volumes. So, is
>>>> disk file struction initialization special, in order to allow that I/O?
>>>>
>>>> Johnny
>>>>
>>>
>>> INIT neads the device to be ALLOCated, not MOUNTed, if I'm not wrong.
>>
>> You don't need to do an ALLOCATE for an INITIALIZE, but it can be
>> prudent to do so (to stop other jobs and/or users getting hold of it).
>>
>
> OK. There you see. I've always done an ALLOC before any INIT's
> the last 20 years... :-)

I never expected that VMS would be so sloppy on this subject. :-)
In RSX-11M+ you need to both have the device allocated, and mounted 
foreign, for INIT to do its work. Not mounted means no I/O at all can 
take place. INIT is no exception. If it is not allocated, then INIT 
itself will throw a fit, since it considers that a device with shared 
access is not fit for INIT to work on. I guess 11M+ makes more sense 
than its successor. :-)

	Johnny



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