[Info-vax] Good/best version of (Open)VMS for a VAXstation 2000?

Mike K. madcrow.maxwell at gmail.com
Mon May 30 12:34:49 EDT 2011


On May 30, 3:26 am, Hans Vlems <hvl... at freenet.de> wrote:
> On 28 mei, 19:54, Henry Crun <m... at rechtman.com> wrote:
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> > On 28/05/11 17:06, Mike K. wrote:> Just a quick update for anybody who cares: thanks to some help from
> > > the SIMH list, I was able to get a copy of 5.4 running DECwindows up
> > > and running. In general, the performance is quite snappy (unlike the
> > > real thing) but the lack of disk space is a real killer. If anyone has
> > > an unused license for VWS lying around, I'd appreciate the donation so
> > > that I can at least make some screenshots or something to donate to
> > > Toastytech. Also, if anyone has a documentation disk from the 5.4 era,
> > > I'm desperately in need of it as my 5.4 (December 1990 IIRC) condist
> > > doesn't have any docs except for the SPDs and Install guides of the
> > > various products included.
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> > > Thanks,
> > > Mike
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> > When did licenses come in? IIRC there were no licenses on V5.4
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> > --
> > Mike R.
> > Home:http://alpha.mike-r.com/
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> That's another reason to run VMS V4.7: no licenses because they got
> introduced with VMS V5.0.
> Until that version, DEC relied on the availability of media, actually
> the absence thereof.
> If you had a tape with, say, a Pascal compiler then all you had to do
> was install it and it would run.
> Manuals were not provided on the tape, so you'd need to find a source
> for them.
> Integrated products were enabled by special kits. Like DECnet that
> merely installed an executable
> and patched another (IIRC). BTW these kits are avaialble on the
> freeware cd's.
> So V4.7 is the way to go on a VS 2000 ;-)
> Hans

Unfortunately, that same lack of media is still a stumbling block as I
can't seem to find a tape image set for stuff that old. Someone who I
won't name gave me some homebrew CD images containing that SHOULD be
enough to install 4.6 and then update it to 4.7 in SIMH but I can't
remember how to get the 4.6 disk booted (it doesn't work the normal
way, merely giving me a "?42 NOSUCHFILE, DUA" when I try) and
attempting to use BACKUP on the installed 5.4 systemdoesn't work
either (there's no visible vms046.b saveset on the disk and the
vms046.a saveset doesn't work with /image and doesn't create a working
disk when its files are merely unpacked) Plus, I don't seem to have
VWS on any of these things to begin with.

Mike



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