[Info-vax] Good/best version of (Open)VMS for a VAXstation 2000?

[Hans Vlems]

On 31 mei, 05:32, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber... at comcast.net> wrote:
> On 5/30/2011 3:26 AM, Hans Vlems wrote:
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> > On 28 mei, 19:54, Henry Crun<m... at rechtman.com>  wrote:
> >> On 28/05/11 17:06, Mike K. wrote:>  Just a quick update for anybody who cares: thanks to some help from
> >>> the SIMH list, I was able to get a copy of 5.4 running DECwindows up
> >>> and running. In general, the performance is quite snappy (unlike the
> >>> real thing) but the lack of disk space is a real killer. If anyone has
> >>> an unused license for VWS lying around, I'd appreciate the donation so
> >>> that I can at least make some screenshots or something to donate to
> >>> Toastytech. Also, if anyone has a documentation disk from the 5.4 era,
> >>> I'm desperately in need of it as my 5.4 (December 1990 IIRC) condist
> >>> doesn't have any docs except for the SPDs and Install guides of the
> >>> various products included.
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> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Mike
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> >> When did licenses come in? IIRC there were no licenses on V5.4
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> >> Mike R.
> >> Home:http://alpha.mike-r.com/
> >> QOTD:http://alpha.mike-r.com/php/qotd.php
> >> No Micro$oft products were used in the URLs above, or in preparing this message.
> >> Recommended reading:http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before
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> > That's another reason to run VMS V4.7: no licenses because they got
> > introduced with VMS V5.0.
> > Until that version, DEC relied on the availability of media, actually
> > the absence thereof.
> > If you had a tape with, say, a Pascal compiler then all you had to do
> > was install it and it would run.
> > Manuals were not provided on the tape, so you'd need to find a source
> > for them.
> > Integrated products were enabled by special kits. Like DECnet that
> > merely installed an executable
> > and patched another (IIRC). BTW these kits are avaialble on the
> > freeware cd's.
> > So V4.7 is the way to go on a VS 2000 ;-)
> > Hans
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> Excuse me for raining on your parade!  Licenses have been required since
> day one!  ENFORCEMENT of license requirements is all that's new!
> That enforcement has been around in various forms for the last ten or
> fifteen years.  Digital/Compaq/H-P have ALL had problems collecting the
> license fees that are due.- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
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You didn't. The way the question was worded gave me the idea that the
OP used the
term license while actually meaning LMF. The question was when LMF was
introduced
with VMS, and V5.0 is the correct answer.
Literally taken, of course a license to use a product has always been
necessary.
Which doesn't mean that it will never rain in license land but
Montagar provides a useful umbrella.
Hans