[Info-vax] New RoadMap out for VMS
seasoned_geek
roland at logikalsolutions.com
Wed Oct 5 16:03:18 EDT 2011
On Oct 2, 7:43 pm, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber... at comcast.net>
wrote:
> On 10/2/2011 6:21 PM, Richard Maher wrote:
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> > "JF Mezei"<jfmezei.spam... at vaxination.ca> wrote in message
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> >> Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
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> >>> Yes there is. Each page has a lable "Future:" and a list.
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> >> If you look at most of those "Futures", there are merely ECOs of the
> >> existing version of the layered product/middleware.
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> >> There is no mention of a new version of VMS.
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> >> Will IPsec be introduced as an ECO of TCPIP services, or will there be a
> >> totally new version of the product ?
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> > After the Impressionists are finally finished with their haystacks, can I
> > just point out that IPsec has been on the "Future Release" schedule for over
> > 10 years :-(
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> > When does someone get called to account for this bullshit?
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> Before you can "call someone to account" you will need to find someone
> who has assumed responsibility for porting IPSEC to VMS or for writing
> it from scratch. If you REALLY want it, start writing it. You'll get
> it faster!
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> AFAIK VMS is no longer being developed. It's in "we wish it would go
> away" mode as far as anybody assuming responsibility is concerned.
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> ISTR that HP is obligated to support VMS for several more years. That's
> *NOT* the same as continuing development!
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> I think that if you investigated, you would find that VMS uses
> technology that is licensed from third parties. I don't want to think
> of the unholy mess when HP drops support for VMS after honoring
> contractual commitments to the Defense Department and, perhaps a few
> other big customers.
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> If someone offered enough money, H-P might continue support for VMS.
> I'll believe it when I see the signed contracts. . . .
As the Justice Department has proven time and time again, the only way
to change the behavior of HP is to offer prison time to its current
leaders. Otherwise, it's crime as usual.
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