[Info-vax] AltaVista background information

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Sun Oct 16 13:49:42 EDT 2011


In article <9fvv2vFo24U1 at mid.individual.net>, billg999 at cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:
>In article <j7e986$3pu$1 at online.de>,
>	helbig at astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---undress to reply) writes:
>> In article <j7e8sq$jm4$1 at solani.org>, Michael Kraemer <M.Kraemer at gsi.de>
>> writes: 
>> 
>>> > Marketing is essential.  As the recent blast from the past indicates, 
>>> > there was perhaps a real interest in using ALPHA from Apple. 
>>> 
>>> And who blew that deal, Olsen or Palmer?
>>> Or was it Apple?
>> 
>> According to the article, it was Olsen.  This was before Palmer would 
>> arrive.  Apple expressed interest, Olsen was against it since he didn't 
>> want the fortune of the company riding on ALPHA.
>> 
>>> > Apple is 
>>> > still around, of course, a master of marketing, 
>>> 
>>> They have products everybody wants anyway, so marketing is easy.
>> 
>> Yes, today, but one could argue that they created the demand.  They 
>> didn't invent the MP3 player, but created a demand for it.  One could 
>> argue whether they invented the iPhone or iPad (of course, in these 
>> specific examples, they did; the question is whether they are 
>> significantly different than other products). 
>
>I went to Germany for a military exercise with the Army Reserve back
>in 2007 (a good three years before the iPad) and all of our "observers"
>had tablets that pretty much did all that the iPad does today.  Yes,
>apple invented the iPad, but again, it was a marketing coup, not a tech
>coup.  As has been stated, they are responsible for the demand, not
>the tech.
>
>>                                                In the case of laptops 
>> and desktop/deskside computers, they are a small player, but with a 
>> loyal base and development continues.
>
>Same thing.  Nothing technically special about any of their boxes,  But
>they have created a cult like religious following and that is all about
>marketing.

I thought that you said that you left comp.os.vms. ;)

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