[Info-vax] FREWSLX Alpha 7.3-2
wolkenr at gmail.com
wolkenr at gmail.com
Fri Apr 27 03:29:25 EDT 2012
On Friday, 27 April 2012 15:08:02 UTC+10, Volker Halle wrote:
> Richard,
>
> the FREWSLX crash with MONITOR in V8.2, described in the 26-AUG-2006
> c.o.v. entry, appears to have been a known problem in SPISHR. So it
> does not directly explain what you have seen.
>
> The fact, that your FREWSLX crash in V7.3-2 has been seen on a CHARON-
> AXP/4100 system, does not immediately make the emulator a 'suspect'.
> Please verify, if you might have seen this crash on this system
> before: $ TYPE CLUE$HISTORY - any other FREWSLX seen during the life
> of this system on the real hardware ?
>
> Note that the CPU speed of an emulated AlphaServer 4100 is - depending
> on the performance of the underlying host system - at least 30% faster
> than the real 4100, so this may change some behaviour of the system
> regarding the overall timing of events. Although this is unlikely on
> OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2, which can run on much faster systems.
>
> Please save the current dumpfile (using SDA> COPY/COMPRESS filename)
> as evidence to be compared with possible future crashes.
>
> ---
> Volker Halle, Invenate GmbH, OpenVMS Support
>
> An OpenVMS crashdump analysis a day
> makes the Windows headaches go away.
Thanks Volker,
We haven't seen this crash in our fleet before. We are piloting Charon now with an eye to further deployments. This is a non-production system which is used to test batch processing for the application. A suite of jobs run there every day, and has done so for many years. I have seen over history that SYSMWCNT has lowered over time, but not at all in the last 5 years, so ~274 (or 4333) has been its value for that time. It is clustered with a DS10, which is the primary RDB DB server, and a VAX7720 for ACMS online users (also emulated as a charon VAX6620 also since about 3 weeks ago without problems)
FWIW, shortly before the 4100 was virtualized we also converted the system disk to SAN for the 2 Alpha nodes. Application storage was on SAN already.
This made it possible to continue booting both physical & Charon nodes from the same disk.
We've noticed the speed improvement in the emulator, probably more than 30% in CPU time required to process the same job as an example, but not necessarily elapsed time.
We're talking ~0.80 seconds versus ~1.40 seconds CPU, but ~4.5 seconds elapsed versus ~3 seconds before. SCA is an interesting change now, because we have PEA0 over a second NIC in the virtual systems.
TSG_RW_BA1090> ty clue$history
Date Version System/CPU Node Bugcheck Process PC Module Offset
----------------- -------- ------------------- ------ ------------ --------------- -------- ----------------------- --------
21-APR-2011 15:57 V7.3-2 AlphaServer 4100 5/ BA1090 CLUEXIT NULL 8034C724 SYS$CLUSTER 00002724
4-AUG-2011 12:41 V7.3-2 COMPAQ AlphaServer BA2283 CWLNMERR A.HEMANTH2 00030B60 CSP 00030B60
8-MAR-2012 12:43 V7.3-2 AlphaServer 4100 BA1090 INVEXCEPTN NULL 86C33AB4 TCPIP$INTERNET_SERVICES 00055AB4
3-APR-2012 08:38 V7.3-2 AlphaServer 4100 BA1090 INVEXCEPTN TCPIP$INETACP 00003088 <not available> 00000000
3-APR-2012 08:54 V7.3-2 AlphaServer 4100 BA1090 INVEXCEPTN TCPIP$INETACP 86C08010 TCPIP$INTERNET_SERVICES 0002A010
17-APR-2012 22:30 V7.3-2 AlphaServer 4100 BA1090 FREWSLX BATCH_1184 8017807C SYS$VM 0000A07C
On Friday, 27 April 2012 15:08:02 UTC+10, Volker Halle wrote:
> Richard,
>
> the FREWSLX crash with MONITOR in V8.2, described in the 26-AUG-2006
> c.o.v. entry, appears to have been a known problem in SPISHR. So it
> does not directly explain what you have seen.
>
> The fact, that your FREWSLX crash in V7.3-2 has been seen on a CHARON-
> AXP/4100 system, does not immediately make the emulator a 'suspect'.
> Please verify, if you might have seen this crash on this system
> before: $ TYPE CLUE$HISTORY - any other FREWSLX seen during the life
> of this system on the real hardware ?
>
> Note that the CPU speed of an emulated AlphaServer 4100 is - depending
> on the performance of the underlying host system - at least 30% faster
> than the real 4100, so this may change some behaviour of the system
> regarding the overall timing of events. Although this is unlikely on
> OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-2, which can run on much faster systems.
>
> Please save the current dumpfile (using SDA> COPY/COMPRESS filename)
> as evidence to be compared with possible future crashes.
>
> ---
> Volker Halle, Invenate GmbH, OpenVMS Support
>
> An OpenVMS crashdump analysis a day
> makes the Windows headaches go away.
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