[Info-vax] HP wins Oracle Itanium case

[David Froble]

JF Mezei wrote:
> Howard S Shubs wrote:
> 
>> That assumes HP does that soon.  There's no reason to believe they will, 
> 
> One of the Oracle documents that was "obtained" from HP showed HP
> expected customers to learn about the EOL of Itanium in 2012.
> 
> With BCS bleeding customers at a high rate, and sales of IA64 systems
> tanking, the sooner the EOL is announced, the sooner the financial
> burden can stop.
> 
> Here is how I see it unfold:
> 
> Poulson released, HP announces Poulson based systems
> HP (finally) unveils some real hardware and software for its project
> odyssey.
> 
> HP announces that the speed curve for x86 is such that it will (or has)
> surpassed IA64 based systems and that IA64 systems will be EOLed, with
> Kittson and a speedbump coming a year later, and garantees sales of IA64
> for only 5 years. (and thus support for 10 years, but since HP doesn't
> lose money on support, this is less important).
> 
> The second HP fesses up that IA64 is a lame duck waiting to be EOLed,
> Oracle no longer needs to lift a finger to hurt HP. So it would have no
> reason to purposefully delay HP-UX releases. But it will also have fewer
> reasons to add resourxes to get those versions out very fast.
> 
> Was was quite smart about this Oracle thing is that it lasted long
> enough for many customers to put into place porting projects to leave
> HP-UX. Those projects will not stop with the result of thos lawsuit
> saying Oracle must continue to provide new versions.

You state this as fact.  Can you name one place that began a port off HP-UX solely because 
of the little spat between HP and Oracle?  just one, that's all that I'm asking.  No 
conjecture, real facts.

> What Oracle did was only part of the overall scene which caused
> customers to decide to migrate away from IA64 based systems. They
> already knew that IA64 had finite lifetime and migration was going to
> have to be done eventually anyways. Oracle acted more as a catalyst to
> force those decision to be taken sooner rather than later.

As I've asked above, please name even one ....

I've had more FUD than I can put up with ....